ATI Catalyst drivers 7.8 released - Page 2

Misfit138 · 08-15-07, 12:15 PM

Can confirm the problem mentioned in the previous post

AA 4x and AF 4x but these really won't matter. Tried pretty much everything but can't seem to make them go away

Quagmire · 08-15-07, 12:18 PM

Well I guess I am not crazy then. Others do have the same problem. It appears when the rails are viewed at a distace.

I think I am gonna post this in the modders forum as well. Maybe those talented folks can help.
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Misfit138 · 08-15-07, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagmire

It appears when the rails are viewed at a distace.

And this is also noticeable when looking ships cables at distance. Almost looks like you're not using any AA

But this raises another question, does the Nvidia users have this problem?

SteamWake · 08-15-07, 12:45 PM

Yes I get the striping too occasionally.

Also Moiere patterns on the decking when the lighting is right.

Quagmire · 08-15-07, 12:49 PM

Yeah. Here is another example of the problem.

Are we all ATI users with this problem???
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McBeck · 08-16-07, 01:04 AM

Stupid question:
How do you get to the lookout platform??

AkbarGulag · 08-16-07, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBeck

Stupid question:
How do you get to the lookout platform??

With this nifty mod by SergButo...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=120160

I use an ATI 9800XT and have all the same problems as other users above. I guess I know why the 'Sunmod' won't work for me ^^

chopped50ford · 08-16-07, 02:22 AM

im using an ATI RAdeon 1600 vid card and would like to setup the Catalyst to give me optimum performance for the game.

comp specs are:
AMD AThlon 64x2 Dual
Core processor 5200+
2.61 GHz 2.00 GB of Ram
500 Gig HD
NEC 21" Flatscreen
Windows XP Home

I dont understand the following:
3d Quality
Anti-Aliasing
Adaptive Anti Aliasing
Anisotropic Flite
Mip Map Detail
Open GL settings - Triple Buffering?

ATI overdrive? Isnt Overclocking bad?

Thanks!

Misfit138 · 08-16-07, 12:06 PM

Please, could even a single Nvidia user confirm this broken lighting effect on railings?

AkbarGulag · 08-16-07, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chopped50ford

im using an ATI RAdeon 1600 vid card and would like to setup the Catalyst to give me optimum performance for the game.

I dont understand the following:
3d Quality
Anti-Aliasing
Adaptive Anti Aliasing
Anisotropic Flite
Mip Map Detail
Open GL settings - Triple Buffering?

ATI overdrive? Isnt Overclocking bad?

Thanks!

Do NOT overclock is my advice... no matter how easy that GUI makes it look. As for all the settings, it may be best to learn by feel...

The 'Catalyst Control Center' has some good tooltips if you hover over each setting. Also, it has a dinky little tool for playing with the settings and seeing the results in real time. A techy explanation for each of those settings would take more than a few pages I would imagine.

Quagmire · 08-16-07, 09:48 PM

I think I have made some progress with this issue. Check the following screenies:

The problem is due to the extra layer of lighting effects that are applied to the ships. When you disable "USE SHIP NORMAL MAPS" this layer is turned off and the crawlies are gone.

THEREFORE THIS PROBLEM IS NOT DUE TO A LACK OF ANTI-ALIASING OR LOW RESOLUTION. Check the wires in the mast rigging. Anti-Aliasing is working beautifully.

So dont run out and buy new monitors folks. What we have here is a bugged game 3D engine or bugged ATI drivers.

Unfortunately there is a hitch. This "fix" or "workaround" only applies to the ships. Your own sub does not seem effected (crawlies still exist).

What we need are the talented modders out there to help us with the scene.dat file and tweak it to remove the offending lighting layer.

Thoughts?
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Misfit138 · 08-16-07, 10:05 PM

@Quagmire

Sorry but I'm unable to confirm. Did testing with AA 4x, AF 4x and unchecked "Ship Normal Maps" but it did nothing

Quagmire · 08-16-07, 10:09 PM

Remember you will still have the problem when viewing your sub. Its the ships that are effected.

I use 6x AA and 16x AF at 1280x960. Also Max all of your sliders (except gamma of course) in the graphics options. Maxing the sliders helped as well and I only lost a few FPS.

As you can see by the screen shots I took. It does help. Although it is not perfect. However I do feel that the results I jsut posted prove that the problem is not due to anti aliasing.

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Misfit138 · 08-16-07, 10:20 PM

Did another test. AA 6x, AF 16x and everything on except "Ship Normal Maps" also every slider was set to max but the result was still the same. And yes, tested this when looking a cargo ship not my own sub

Which ATI card you're using? Might have something to do with this...

Quagmire · 08-16-07, 10:38 PM

I am using an x1950Pro AGP. Here is a screenie of my settings.

I hope it works out for you. It doesnt solve the problem completely but it does help a great deal. With a little help from the expert modders here we may fix it. The lighting and shader effects need work. They are already doing this with the ocean textures. Maybe we can get them to help with this...

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08-15-07, 12:18 PM	#17
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Well I guess I am not crazy then. Others do have the same problem. It appears when the rails are viewed at a distace. I think I am gonna post this in the modders forum as well. Maybe those talented folks can help. . __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...

08-15-07, 12:49 PM	#20
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Yeah. Here is another example of the problem. Are we all ATI users with this problem??? . __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...

08-16-07, 01:04 AM	#21
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Stupid question: How do you get to the lookout platform?? __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

08-16-07, 02:22 AM	#23
chopped50ford Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 367 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	im using an ATI RAdeon 1600 vid card and would like to setup the Catalyst to give me optimum performance for the game. comp specs are: AMD AThlon 64x2 Dual Core processor 5200+ 2.61 GHz 2.00 GB of Ram 500 Gig HD NEC 21" Flatscreen Windows XP Home I dont understand the following: 3d Quality Anti-Aliasing Adaptive Anti Aliasing Anisotropic Flite Mip Map Detail Open GL settings - Triple Buffering? ATI overdrive? Isnt Overclocking bad? Thanks! __________________ TM2(SS) USS Asheville - Plankowner, Shellback, "Order of the Ditch" http://ths-i.com/

08-16-07, 09:48 PM	#26
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	I think I have made some progress with this issue. Check the following screenies: The problem is due to the extra layer of lighting effects that are applied to the ships. When you disable "USE SHIP NORMAL MAPS" this layer is turned off and the crawlies are gone. THEREFORE THIS PROBLEM IS NOT DUE TO A LACK OF ANTI-ALIASING OR LOW RESOLUTION. Check the wires in the mast rigging. Anti-Aliasing is working beautifully. So dont run out and buy new monitors folks. What we have here is a bugged game 3D engine or bugged ATI drivers. Unfortunately there is a hitch. This "fix" or "workaround" only applies to the ships. Your own sub does not seem effected (crawlies still exist). What we need are the talented modders out there to help us with the scene.dat file and tweak it to remove the offending lighting layer. Thoughts? . __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...

08-15-07, 12:15 PM	#16
Misfit138 Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 267 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	Can confirm the problem mentioned in the previous post AA 4x and AF 4x but these really won't matter. Tried pretty much everything but can't seem to make them go away

08-15-07, 12:45 PM	#19
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yes I get the striping too occasionally. Also Moiere patterns on the decking when the lighting is right.

08-16-07, 12:06 PM	#24
Misfit138 Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 267 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	Please, could even a single Nvidia user confirm this broken lighting effect on railings?

08-16-07, 10:05 PM	#27
Misfit138 Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 267 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	@Quagmire Sorry but I'm unable to confirm. Did testing with AA 4x, AF 4x and unchecked "Ship Normal Maps" but it did nothing

08-16-07, 10:09 PM	#28
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Remember you will still have the problem when viewing your sub. Its the ships that are effected. I use 6x AA and 16x AF at 1280x960. Also Max all of your sliders (except gamma of course) in the graphics options. Maxing the sliders helped as well and I only lost a few FPS. As you can see by the screen shots I took. It does help. Although it is not perfect. However I do feel that the results I jsut posted prove that the problem is not due to anti aliasing. . __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...

08-16-07, 10:20 PM	#29
Misfit138 Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 267 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	Did another test. AA 6x, AF 16x and everything on except "Ship Normal Maps" also every slider was set to max but the result was still the same. And yes, tested this when looking a cargo ship not my own sub Which ATI card you're using? Might have something to do with this...

08-16-07, 10:38 PM	#30
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	I am using an x1950Pro AGP. Here is a screenie of my settings. I hope it works out for you. It doesnt solve the problem completely but it does help a great deal. With a little help from the expert modders here we may fix it. The lighting and shader effects need work. They are already doing this with the ocean textures. Maybe we can get them to help with this... . __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...