190,000 weapons missing in Iraq?

SUBMAN1 · 08-06-07, 02:05 PM

Thats quite a high number if its true

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2210735.ece

-S

Heibges · 08-06-07, 02:54 PM

It sounds like they were all AK-47's etc.

They probably weren't keeping that good of track of them when they checked them in, in the first place. Probably in a big pile waiting for them to be burned, when they they started handing them out.

On the bright side, Colt can now sell them 190,000 good old American Made M-16's.

Sailor Steve · 08-06-07, 02:56 PM

"They have weapons of mass destruction...

...and if they don't, we'll give them some!":rotfl:

HunterICX · 08-06-07, 03:14 PM

Mmmm...

seems to be a situation of

'RAKTAKTAKTAKTAKTAKTAKRAKAKA'

*clickclickclickclick*

damn out of ammo

Wait a minute....

*throws M16 against Enemy target*

BOOYAAAAAH!!!

bookworm_020 · 08-06-07, 09:33 PM

So when are they handing out the free hand grenades??

Letum · 08-06-07, 09:38 PM

History repeats it's self again.

emtmedic005 · 08-06-07, 09:39 PM

My uncle told me something that seems very to in the US Military, its cheaper to buy new weapons then to package and ship the old ones.

Plus many Iraqi Veterans have told countless stories about how things get stolen all the time and how things magically dissapear in Iraq, like how a whole new shipment of Humvees (10) vanished once the trucks entered Iraq.

Heibges · 08-06-07, 10:54 PM

I heard similiar stories.

Once "war" starts, you are not longer responsible for the stuff you sign for.

When Gulf War 1 kicked off, everyone dumped their extra stuff in the desert. But when the war ended 4 days later, the Army now said they were responsible, so you had folks cruising all over the desert trying to find discarded equipment.

peterloo · 08-06-07, 11:11 PM

Oh no! Are the terrorists turning the table of the game, using American weapons to kill Americans (and her allies). IMO, that's sarcastic!

Seems that Iraqi police have multiple problems. I read Times (magazine), and a recent one (I forgot which one) mentions Iraqi police backstabbed and killed American soldiers. Pretty heart-breaking

Anyway, get used to this. There is nothing much we can do right now, except trying to recover them OR increase the internal securities to prevent a traitor in the force from utilizing his advantage to salvage secrets / causes trouble.

bradclark1 · 08-07-07, 07:58 AM

At first I said par to the course the way things are over there but given Iraqi mentality (as I see it) and no serial numbers it would be impossible to track them all. Hind-sight 20/20 should have spent the time and money to get numbers put on them. But loosing control of 1/3 of issued weapons

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Heibges · 08-07-07, 09:48 AM

In retrospect, we probably should have kept everyone in the Middle East disarmed since the end of WWII.

PapaG39 · 08-07-07, 12:42 PM

Just back out... When they all run into the streets to shoot those weapons in the air ... Nuke em!

Ishmael · 08-07-07, 11:31 PM

Hey, we won! No WMDs, Saddam dead, elected govt. in place. Time to go home & let them happily slaughter each other. Oh, that's right. The Hydrocarbon Bill hasn't been passed giving US oil companies 80% of existing and 100% of new oil fields. So that's the only benchmark that matters. Of course those weapons are missing. They went to the Sunni insurgency who're killing our troops so they can kill Shi'ite militias who are fighting each other in Basra now the Brits have pulled out. Yep. Thinks just couldn't be rosier over there. I may take my vacation there next year...NOT.

08-06-07, 02:05 PM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	190,000 weapons missing in Iraq? Thats quite a high number if its true http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2210735.ece -S __________________

08-06-07, 02:54 PM	#2
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	It sounds like they were all AK-47's etc. They probably weren't keeping that good of track of them when they checked them in, in the first place. Probably in a big pile waiting for them to be burned, when they they started handing them out. On the bright side, Colt can now sell them 190,000 good old American Made M-16's. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

08-06-07, 02:56 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	"They have weapons of mass destruction... ...and if they don't, we'll give them some!":rotfl: __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-06-07, 03:14 PM	#4
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Mmmm... seems to be a situation of 'RAKTAKTAKTAKTAKTAKTAKRAKAKA' clickclickclickclick damn out of ammo Wait a minute.... throws M16 against Enemy target BOOYAAAAAH!!! __________________

08-06-07, 09:33 PM	#5
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	So when are they handing out the free hand grenades?? __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

08-06-07, 09:38 PM	#6
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	History repeats it's self again. __________________

08-06-07, 09:39 PM	#7
emtmedic005 Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Andover, MA Posts: 361 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My uncle told me something that seems very to in the US Military, its cheaper to buy new weapons then to package and ship the old ones. Plus many Iraqi Veterans have told countless stories about how things get stolen all the time and how things magically dissapear in Iraq, like how a whole new shipment of Humvees (10) vanished once the trucks entered Iraq.

08-06-07, 10:54 PM	#8
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I heard similiar stories. Once "war" starts, you are not longer responsible for the stuff you sign for. When Gulf War 1 kicked off, everyone dumped their extra stuff in the desert. But when the war ended 4 days later, the Army now said they were responsible, so you had folks cruising all over the desert trying to find discarded equipment. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

08-06-07, 11:11 PM	#9
peterloo Commander Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 462 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Oh no! Are the terrorists turning the table of the game, using American weapons to kill Americans (and her allies). IMO, that's sarcastic! Seems that Iraqi police have multiple problems. I read Times (magazine), and a recent one (I forgot which one) mentions Iraqi police backstabbed and killed American soldiers. Pretty heart-breaking Anyway, get used to this. There is nothing much we can do right now, except trying to recover them OR increase the internal securities to prevent a traitor in the force from utilizing his advantage to salvage secrets / causes trouble. __________________ Romeo is here, but where is Juliet? The 中国水兵 (Chinese Sailor) in subsim

08-07-07, 07:58 AM	#10
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	At first I said par to the course the way things are over there but given Iraqi mentality (as I see it) and no serial numbers it would be impossible to track them all. Hind-sight 20/20 should have spent the time and money to get numbers put on them. But loosing control of 1/3 of issued weapons .

08-07-07, 09:48 AM	#11
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	In retrospect, we probably should have kept everyone in the Middle East disarmed since the end of WWII. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

08-07-07, 12:42 PM	#12
PapaG39 Frogman Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 297 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Just back out... When they all run into the streets to shoot those weapons in the air ... Nuke em!

08-07-07, 11:31 PM	#13
Ishmael Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morro Bay, Ca. Posts: 659 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Hey, we won! No WMDs, Saddam dead, elected govt. in place. Time to go home & let them happily slaughter each other. Oh, that's right. The Hydrocarbon Bill hasn't been passed giving US oil companies 80% of existing and 100% of new oil fields. So that's the only benchmark that matters. Of course those weapons are missing. They went to the Sunni insurgency who're killing our troops so they can kill Shi'ite militias who are fighting each other in Basra now the Brits have pulled out. Yep. Thinks just couldn't be rosier over there. I may take my vacation there next year...NOT.