Is your HYDROPHONE busted too? - Page 3

Blood_splat · 08-06-07, 07:10 PM

Well last night I was tracking a ship and it just disappeared off the sonar. I don't know what happened, but it could have been my sound settings.

Quagmire · 08-06-07, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

Why for the love of god would you use the hydrophones while at periscope depth if you can see the ship with your own eyes thru the periscope

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So you can track the bearing of the ship without having the periscope raised silly. They can see it you know...

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Originally Posted by ducimus

Just FYI, there most definatly is something up with the hydrophones, but its inconsistant on WHEN it decides to act weird.

THANK YOU Ducimus for believing me about this hydrophone problem. So many have told me that I was crazy or just having sound card troubles. I know a man of your talent will have this fixed in no time.

I'll bet the devs broke it when they "fixed" the hydrophones so that it lights the green lamp and no longer detects sampans.

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Ducimus · 08-06-07, 09:29 PM

I have no proof, but my gut feeling its something associated with whatever code change ubi did to make it so certain ships don't show up as a hydrophone contact (lifeboats, sailing ships and the like). Seems to resolve itself when you surface and then dive again later on, but thats not always feasible. I think its going to be a rare occurance, and until someone figures out how to repeat it, we'll be scratching our heads at this one for awhile .

RockNut · 08-06-07, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

I have no proof, but my gut feeling its something associated with whatever code change ubi did to make it so certain ships don't show up as a hydrophone contact (lifeboats, sailing ships and the like). Seems to resolve itself when you surface and then dive again later on, but thats not always feasible. I think its going to be a rare occurance, and until someone figures out how to repeat it, we'll be scratching our heads at this one for awhile .

So we get to consider this as an undocumented feature? Simulated sonar malfunction that can only be fixed on the surface? Brilliant! Just because it wasn't intentional doesn't mean it can't be realistic...

Fearless · 08-07-07, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

Why for the love of god would you use the hydrophones while at periscope depth if you can see the ship with your own eyes thru the periscope

.

So you can track the bearing of the ship without having the periscope raised silly. They can see it you know...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducimus

Just FYI, there most definatly is something up with the hydrophones, but its inconsistant on WHEN it decides to act weird.

THANK YOU Ducimus for believing me about this hydrophone problem. So many have told me that I was crazy or just having sound card troubles. I know a man of your talent will have this fixed in no time.

I'll bet the devs broke it when they "fixed" the hydrophones so that it lights the green lamp and no longer detects sampans.

Yep and if one reads what has changed in v1.3, it'll tell you just that.

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GAMEPLAY CHANGES
3. Small, irrelevant, units don't show up on the map or clutter the sensors
4. The radar and hydrophone won't detect units that don't have a signature of that kind (sampans, rowboats, etc)

SteamWake · 08-07-07, 09:09 AM

I for one can live with the occasional dropped contact in lieu of having rubber boats and sailboats being logged as sonar contacts

Ducimus · 08-07-07, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

I for one can live with the occasional dropped contact in lieu of having rubber boats and sailboats being logged as sonar contacts

Ditto. Besides, AI sonar man hears them just fine, and with radar, you really don't need to rely on being able to hear long distance contacts yourself anyway.

Ilpalazzo · 08-07-07, 05:00 PM

I'm using TM mod and I have gotten this problem a few times. I just assumed the game was being, well, sh4. Didn't think much of it as it is random and uncommon.

The Joker · 10-13-07, 10:39 PM

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I just experienced this bug. I setup a test mission with a cargo ship that passes in front of my sub at 5 kts. (I was following WernerSobe's excellent advanced firing solution video tutorial.) I set up the mission with stormy weather and tried it out.

When the ship came within hydrophone range, my SO reported the contact and I switched to the hydrophone station. I pointed the phones in the direction of the ship but no green light and I couldn't hear anything. (Although, my SO could still track the target and I could ping it.)

I figured it was a weather problem, so I set it to a nice calm day and tried again. Same thing.

I tried many different depths but still no dice. (I also tried surfacing and diving as Ducimus suggested.) Then I thought that maybe the ship was going too slow, so I set the ship's speed to 10 kts... Heard it loud and clear.

So, it seems to be related to speed... Anyone know any more about this?

brandtryan · 12-01-07, 09:41 AM

I'm now having this problem as well--with 1.4. Did anyone ever solve this?

AVGWarhawk · 12-01-07, 09:55 AM

Every once in a while I get the vessel with the Russian caterpillar propulsion system. Never has it been a constant problem really. Does this happen all the time?

brandtryan · 12-01-07, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Every once in a while I get the vessel with the Russian caterpillar propulsion system. Never has it been a constant problem really. Does this happen all the time?

Well, I just started a campaign--and on the way to Midway to refuel from Pearl, I encountered a merchant, and the sonar worked.

However, upon reaching Midway--where my sonar man founds tons of new contacts (friendlies)--the sonar is not working--I get no sound when I turn to his reported contacts. I do get sound from my own screws though.

AVGWarhawk · 12-01-07, 10:30 AM

Try this if you do not have it already. Go to the Reflections on the Water mod posted over in the mod forums. Download the sound mod (stand alone package) and install JSGME. See if that cures your ills. Better sounds anyway!

brandtryan · 12-01-07, 11:49 AM

thanks for all the help, Warhawk--I'll give it a try.

fireship4 · 12-01-07, 01:52 PM

well in regards to not being able to hear the friendly contacts on sonar at midway, as far as i remember they aren't moving - no props no noise. I guess the SO being able to pick them up is a quirk of the game - could be attributed to hearing maintainance etc going on inside.

Hmm are there sounds ingame so you can hear maintainance on ships? Can we add this? Did ships ever do the equivalent of "rig for silent running".

12-01-07, 09:55 AM	#41
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,305 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Every once in a while I get the vessel with the Russian caterpillar propulsion system. Never has it been a constant problem really. Does this happen all the time? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-01-07, 10:30 AM	#43
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,305 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Try this if you do not have it already. Go to the Reflections on the Water mod posted over in the mod forums. Download the sound mod (stand alone package) and install JSGME. See if that cures your ills. Better sounds anyway! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-01-07, 01:52 PM	#45
fireship4 Ensign Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 221 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	well in regards to not being able to hear the friendly contacts on sonar at midway, as far as i remember they aren't moving - no props no noise. I guess the SO being able to pick them up is a quirk of the game - could be attributed to hearing maintainance etc going on inside. Hmm are there sounds ingame so you can hear maintainance on ships? Can we add this? Did ships ever do the equivalent of "rig for silent running". __________________ Rest in peace Dave

08-06-07, 07:10 PM	#31
Blood_splat Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Beneath the waves Posts: 568 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Well last night I was tracking a ship and it just disappeared off the sonar. I don't know what happened, but it could have been my sound settings.

08-06-07, 09:29 PM	#33
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I have no proof, but my gut feeling its something associated with whatever code change ubi did to make it so certain ships don't show up as a hydrophone contact (lifeboats, sailing ships and the like). Seems to resolve itself when you surface and then dive again later on, but thats not always feasible. I think its going to be a rare occurance, and until someone figures out how to repeat it, we'll be scratching our heads at this one for awhile .

08-07-07, 09:09 AM	#36
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I for one can live with the occasional dropped contact in lieu of having rubber boats and sailboats being logged as sonar contacts

08-07-07, 05:00 PM	#38
Ilpalazzo Frogman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 309 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I'm using TM mod and I have gotten this problem a few times. I just assumed the game was being, well, sh4. Didn't think much of it as it is random and uncommon.

10-13-07, 10:39 PM	#39
The Joker Watch Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 19 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I just experienced this bug. I setup a test mission with a cargo ship that passes in front of my sub at 5 kts. (I was following WernerSobe's excellent advanced firing solution video tutorial.) I set up the mission with stormy weather and tried it out. When the ship came within hydrophone range, my SO reported the contact and I switched to the hydrophone station. I pointed the phones in the direction of the ship but no green light and I couldn't hear anything. (Although, my SO could still track the target and I could ping it.) I figured it was a weather problem, so I set it to a nice calm day and tried again. Same thing. I tried many different depths but still no dice. (I also tried surfacing and diving as Ducimus suggested.) Then I thought that maybe the ship was going too slow, so I set the ship's speed to 10 kts... Heard it loud and clear. So, it seems to be related to speed... Anyone know any more about this?

12-01-07, 09:41 AM	#40
brandtryan Engineer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Indianapolis, United States Posts: 214 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	I'm now having this problem as well--with 1.4. Did anyone ever solve this?

12-01-07, 11:49 AM	#44
brandtryan Engineer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Indianapolis, United States Posts: 214 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	thanks for all the help, Warhawk--I'll give it a try.