Congress is so horrible that..........

[Dowly]

[quote=waste gate]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

What have we accomplished in Iraq so far after five years?

Amen.

[SUBMAN1]

[quote=Dowly]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Amen.

Even so, wait 1 year after we leave and see what we will accomplish - No one likes to talk about all the dead iraqies if we leave, but mass muder and mass deaths will be the result. That is why we are still there - hoping they can eventually get a grip and an arm around their own country.

If we leave now, we will be responsible for one of the greatest mass murders in the aftermath in history.

Amazing how no one looks at that side when they talk of pulling out. It is our duty to help them for 10 years even if it takes them that long to be able to control the situation themselves.

-S

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

The Republican were leading us to ruin. The Democrats are leading us to ruin. Whats left?

Well, at least the Republicans are on our side. We know they don't help our enemies through preopaganda, false assertions, and defeatism. Republicans can be the solution when they stop acting like Democrats on spending and border security. And when they finally get tough and not allow the demoralizing anti-American propaganda in the media any leeway and just do what needs to be done. It's hard to fight a war effectively when your left-wing Antiwar media are crying "genocide" "ethnic cleansing" "and "baby-killers" at every turn. Republicans are weak fools. But at least their for the home team. Our Senate and House Democrats are nothing but outright traitors. They need to go. Especially since they're doing nothing but wasting time and money on meaningless investigations that lead nowhere.

The Democrat Congress is a failure. They need to go. We need change.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Even so, wait 1 year after we leave and see what we will accomplish - No one likes to talk about all the dead iraqies if we leave, but mass muder and mass deaths will be the result. That is why we are still there - hoping they can eventually get a grip and an arm around their own country.

If we leave now, we will be responsible for one of the greatest mass murders in the aftermath in history.

Amazing how no one looks at that side when they talk of pulling out. It is our duty to help them for 10 years even if it takes them that long to be able to control the situation themselves.

-S

You can't call for withdrawal without thinking of the repercussions.
They have been at each others throats for 1400 years. What I find amazing is that we expect them to act like they were us if given the opportunity. They aren't us. They aren't loyal to their country and never will be. They are loyal to their tribe, religion and getting as many American dollars as possible in their pocket. Those that just want peace are seen as nothing but bomb fodder. The only thing they were owed by us is the opportunity to succeed. They've been given that opportunity. To do more we have to restart the draft and properly occupy the country. Put whats needed in there and stop just flushing lives and money down the crapper. Doing something half-assed doesn't bring success no matter how hard we wish and to me it is sheer stupidity and criminal to just feed the crapper.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

The Democrat Congress is a failure. They need to go. We need change.

Change! How long have they been there? They need a kick in the nuts but they haven't had time to be a failure yet.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Change! How long have they been there? They need a kick in the nuts but they haven't had time to be a failure yet.

No. They need to go. We need a whole new Congressional makeup. This Democrat Congress is inept, chaotic, ineffective, and a complete and total do-nothing congress. They are not serving America in any meaningful way. When it gets to this point, a change is needed. A kick in the nuts will not help this group. They are simply impotent.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

No. They need to go. We need a whole new Congressional makeup. This Democrat Congress is inept, chaotic, ineffective, and a complete and total do-nothing congress. They are not serving America in any meaningful way. When it gets to this point, a change is needed. A kick in the nuts will not help this group. They are simply impotent.

Who would you replace the with? The Republicans? They got fired for much the same reasons. Replacing broke with broke doesn't fix it. The public won't put rubber stampers back in place.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Who would you replace the with? The Republicans? They got fired for much the same reasons. Replacing broke with broke doesn't fix it. The public won't put rubber stampers back in place.

No, the Dem Congress is a total failure. And they are actually rated worse than the Republican Congress of before. The Republicans actually got more done than this group. These Democrats are trying to get American citizens to foot the bill for Illegal Alien benefits. And they failed, thankfully. The Republicans actually got something done to protect AMERICAN taxpayers here. Ev en as the minority party. Like I said, at least with the Republicans, you know they're on our side. Bring em' back. And hopefully they've learned that when you act like Democrats, that's when they lose. Yes, bring back Republican leadership. Especially since this Congress isn't even half as effective as the last one. And that's not saying much.

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Even so, wait 1 year after we leave and see what we will accomplish - No one likes to talk about all the dead iraqies if we leave, but mass muder and mass deaths will be the result. That is why we are still there - hoping they can eventually get a grip and an arm around their own country.

If we leave now, we will be responsible for one of the greatest mass murders in the aftermath in history.

Amazing how no one looks at that side when they talk of pulling out. It is our duty to help them for 10 years even if it takes them that long to be able to control the situation themselves.

-S

Thats the best thing I've ever seen you say. Its very true. As the occupying force you are responsible to the people of that country since you tore apart the existing regime and essentially created instability. The thing though is that it isnt really up to the American people to decide when to leave. Thats for the Iraqis to decide. They want America to stay, America should stay. They want America out, America should get out. Its their country now, they call the shots. But thats of course to a reasonable extent. If its been 15 years and nothing has changed... yes I think America could leave having tried hard.

[Sea Demon]

This is the sentiments coming from the Democrat leadership. These are party leaders at this event. Look how they treat those that serve their country.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57004

[Sea Demon]

While the Democrat Congress works to enslave the U.S. taxpayers by forcing them to fund ILLEGAL alien benefits, Republicans coming back to their senses. Yes, change the Congressional make-up to one that is at least for the home team.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNJ7RCGOU1.DTL

[Sea Demon]

Democrat Congress cheats on vote. Their (Democrats) position destructive to the U.S. taxpaying base.

transcript says:

Sylvester: The explosion happened as the House was debating whether to prohibit illegal aliens from receiving welfare benefits. Deciding Democrat Michael McNulty ruled that the vote failed.
Even though when the gavel came down, the official tally showed otherwise: 215 in favor, 213 against. Democrats then accepted additional vote switches, changing the final tally to 216 against, 212 in favor. Republicans walked off the floor.
Rep. Mike Pence: Republicans won the vote to deny illegal immigrants welfare benefits, and the imperial Democrat majority changed the vote.
Rep. Brian Bilbray: There are people in this town that are willing to break the rules and do extraordinary maneuvers just so that illegal aliens can get benefits.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...03/ldt.01.html

Your failed Congress is working to represent a foreign people to your family's detriment. What the Democrats want would enslave your grandchildren to paying for foreign welfare benefits forever.

Time for them to go. And time for you to wise up.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

No, the Dem Congress is a total failure. And they are actually rated worse than the Republican Congress of before. The Republicans actually got more done than this group. These Democrats are trying to get American citizens to foot the bill for Illegal Alien benefits. And they failed, thankfully. The Republicans actually got something done to protect AMERICAN taxpayers here. Ev en as the minority party. Like I said, at least with the Republicans, you know they're on our side. Bring em' back. And hopefully they've learned that when you act like Democrats, that's when they lose. Yes, bring back Republican leadership. Especially since this Congress isn't even half as effective as the last one. And that's not saying much.

You're just waving your party flag again. End of discussion.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

You're just waving your party flag again. End of discussion.

Doesn't change the facts that this Congress is a horrific failure. And we need change desperately because they have failed so miserably. They have totally let down the American people. They are definitely corrupt and have broken the faith and trust of the American people. Good thing that most people see this. This is the lowest rated Congress I've ever seen. They totally fit the title of "do-nothing Congress". That ain't party flag waving. It's the facts. Time for a change in the Legislative Branch.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

This is the sentiments coming from the Democrat leadership. These are party leaders at this event. Look how they treat those that serve their country.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57004

I see you didn't learn much about some things in your 12 years.

Wes Clark took the mic and tried to explain what had just occurred: The argument appears to be that you’re not allowed to participate in politics while wearing a uniform, or at least that you shouldn’t, and that the questioner was engaging in a sort of moral blackmail, not to mention a violation of the rules,