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Old 07-31-07, 11:02 AM   #76
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And I am not going to budge on that fact. SH3 was the same it took 4 patches to put it right, but at least the four patches came out to get it up to par. SH4 needs to be treated the same.
Actually after 1.4 patch for SH3 there was still a lot of outstanding bugs and some things still didn’t work right. 1.4 made SH3 very playable at that point. I’d go so far as to say it was as playable as SH4 with 1.3.

My personal opinion of SH3 was the game wasn’t up to snuff till 1.4 + GWX, however that is my opinion. I still had fun with SH3 even at patch 1.2, just like I’ve been having fun with SH4 since 1.1 was released.
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Old 07-31-07, 11:14 AM   #77
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This game is not finished and if Ubisoft doesn't correct this bug I'll never buy again a game from them.


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Old 07-31-07, 02:20 PM   #78
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It reflects real life, where Admiral Lockwood and Admiral Christy both did this.

Hey, this is war. You expect to like all your assignments? You know the territory and one Jap freighter looks and sinks like any other in any other piece of ocean. What more do you want? Do your duty son, and you'll get the plum assignments. Until then, let's see some work ethic. I'm not sending you into the meat grinder until I can see you've learned enough to survive out there. You're showing progress, but let's not get overconfident. You're not going to do me any good in thousands of pieces on the bottom of the Sea of Japan. Dismissed!
I wonder if this is ironic or not ? If not, well... OBVIOUSLY it's a bug. I'm not against "hard" games that are hard to reflect reality. I saw a sentence in a game review saying something like "this game is hard but nobody ever said war is easy".
But the repeating missions IS a bug. For example every time I dock to base I get the same screen saying I've been awarded for my 2nd mission. Even if it was the 4th or 5th mission. The date on this screen is always the same, etc etc.

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This game is not finished and if Ubisoft doesn't correct this bug I'll never buy again a game from them.


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It's not a game I'm waiting for. Anyway last Ubisoft game I bought before SH4 was Faces of War which disappointed me a lot too (much too scripted SP missions, etc). I thought "maybe next time I'll have more luck". And no. That's all.
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Old 07-31-07, 03:14 PM   #79
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I really wish two things....

1) Someone could tell me what are all of these critical show stopping bugs that are so capable of twisting so many pairs of panties?

2) Why I am on my first career, 4th Submarine (S -37, USS Snapper, USS Drum and now USS Balao), 10th patrol and have never had a repeating mission or been retired?

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Old 07-31-07, 04:05 PM   #80
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I really wish two things....

1) Someone could tell me what are all of these critical show stopping bugs that are so capable of twisting so many pairs of panties?
There aren't any big showstoppers that are left. The radar being completely useless has been fixed, not to mention an improved interface. The fast/slow torpedo selector resetting bug has been fixed. The AI has been improved so as to not sit around with a thumb up their nose while you torpedo the whole convoy.

Those are the big ones off the top of my head that were a problem in 1.2. Sure, there are still some annoying bugs (like the transparent crewmembers that are on watch) but they hardly make the game unplayable.
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2) Why I am on my first career, 4th Submarine (S -37, USS Snapper, USS Drum and now USS Balao), 10th patrol and have never had a repeating mission or been retired?

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That’s because you probably actually follow your orders and complete your objectives. As long as I’ve completed my objective and radioed back to base I’ve never been give the same mission twice in a row. As a matter of fact, I’ve never been forced to retire either.

I’m really beginning to wonder if the whole repeating mission/retire bug is due to people not understanding how the game works. It’s along the same lines as the posts of people screaming “bug!” at the circle running torpedoes or the magnetic influence detonators not working. The circle runners really happened and the influence detonators never worked during the war.
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Old 07-31-07, 04:33 PM   #81
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I haven't had any repeat missions lately, but I've been testing with different campaign versions, so I don;t get to keep up a career long.

Anyway, the one time I had that bug was harbor photography at surabaya. I took all the required pictures until it said I was complete and went home. None the less got the same mission again and again.

Having started messing with patrols, that part of the campaign is actually very complicated, it might be as simple as a typo someplace, and it would be HARD to find having messed with it myself.

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Old 07-31-07, 08:29 PM   #82
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I really wish two things....

1) Someone could tell me what are all of these critical show stopping bugs that are so capable of twisting so many pairs of panties?
There aren't any big showstoppers that are left. The radar being completely useless has been fixed, not to mention an improved interface. The fast/slow torpedo selector resetting bug has been fixed. The AI has been improved so as to not sit around with a thumb up their nose while you torpedo the whole convoy.

Those are the big ones off the top of my head that were a problem in 1.2. Sure, there are still some annoying bugs (like the transparent crewmembers that are on watch) but they hardly make the game unplayable.
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2) Why I am on my first career, 4th Submarine (S -37, USS Snapper, USS Drum and now USS Balao), 10th patrol and have never had a repeating mission or been retired?

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That’s because you probably actually follow your orders and complete your objectives. As long as I’ve completed my objective and radioed back to base I’ve never been give the same mission twice in a row. As a matter of fact, I’ve never been forced to retire either.

I’m really beginning to wonder if the whole repeating mission/retire bug is due to people not understanding how the game works. It’s along the same lines as the posts of people screaming “bug!” at the circle running torpedoes or the magnetic influence detonators not working. The circle runners really happened and the influence detonators never worked during the war.
Give the man a cigar!

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Old 08-01-07, 09:14 AM   #83
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Desperately need 1.4

Am I the only one that's disappointed by how completely and utterly unfinished this game is?

Right after installing 1.3, I checked my bank balance and it was no different than before 1.3, just like 1.2 and 1.1 made no difference. I don't understand how a company that claims to want to give its customers enjoyable, quality entertainment products can sell a game like SH4 without making all their customers millionaires!

How the frack is anyone supposed to fully enjoy this game if they have to work for a living?! That's a good 8 hours every single weekday that I have to spend at work instead of stalking Jap convoys, all because Ubisoft couldn't be bothered releasing a finished product which contains everything one needs to get maximum enjoyment from it. Many times during the week I don't have time to play this game AT ALL! How am I supposed to fully appreciate the tension of being hunted, the adrenaline rush of being depth charged, the thrill of seeing (or hearing) your fish tear apart their prized tanker or battleship, or the attention to detail if I'm not able to play it constantly?

So please Ubisoft, we NEED a 1.4 patch. They are fully aware that we're only able to play games in our extremely limited spare time, so releasing a game this fun without also giving us the copious amounts of spare time required to be able to fully enjoy it is simply inexcusable.

I DEMAND PATCH 1.4 MILLION DOLLARS!
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Maybe it is me, but I can't quite follow you here. What specific items in SH4 do you have an issue with? Is there anything in the list of the first post in the thread that you wish to add something to?
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Old 08-01-07, 09:31 AM   #85
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Maybe it is me, but I can't quite follow you here. What specific items in SH4 do you have an issue with? Is there anything in the list of the first post in the thread that you wish to add something to?
It's not just you. I don't get what he's so upset about either. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" and all that.
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The only thing not on the first post list, and arguably the most annoying bug left, is the repeat mission bug.

There might be some way to avoid it, maybe, but it's counter intuitive whatever it is cause so many people report it.
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Old 08-01-07, 09:47 AM   #87
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The only thing not on the first post list, and arguably the most annoying bug left, is the repeat mission bug.
To be honest, I am not sure whether that is a bug or a feature. I believe it was on the fix list for patch 1.3. I haven't checked that but if so, a lot of these reports might actually be caused by installation problems.

From what I've read in "Silent Service" most boats patrolled in certain areas (Honshu, Formosa Strait and Philipines were the most common destinations I believe) and most skippers were sent to the same location, time and time again. Only the Narwhal class boats and occasionally some float boats did anything other than patrol an area and rake up tonnage.

Furthermore, special ops like dropping off agents and the like was mostly done by the Australian based boats. Pearl boats rarely got involved except when serving as shields for taskforce operations.

So, it should be repetitive I think. Furthermore, it doesn't really matter where you sink your ships, does it?
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a finished product which contains everything one needs to get maximum enjoyment from it.
That's a perfect world ^^^, we are not in that one. SH4 1.3 is a great game, modders have and will do the rest


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Maybe it is me, but I can't quite follow you here. What specific items in SH4 do you have an issue with? Is there anything in the list of the first post in the thread that you wish to add something to?
It's not just you. I don't get what he's so upset about either. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" and all that.
Ouch there Benji! Or was it Quentin?
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Maybe it is me, but I can't quite follow you here. What specific items in SH4 do you have an issue with? Is there anything in the list of the first post in the thread that you wish to add something to?
It's not just you. I don't get what he's so upset about either. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" and all that.
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