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Old 07-31-07, 02:20 PM   #1
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It reflects real life, where Admiral Lockwood and Admiral Christy both did this.

Hey, this is war. You expect to like all your assignments? You know the territory and one Jap freighter looks and sinks like any other in any other piece of ocean. What more do you want? Do your duty son, and you'll get the plum assignments. Until then, let's see some work ethic. I'm not sending you into the meat grinder until I can see you've learned enough to survive out there. You're showing progress, but let's not get overconfident. You're not going to do me any good in thousands of pieces on the bottom of the Sea of Japan. Dismissed!
I wonder if this is ironic or not ? If not, well... OBVIOUSLY it's a bug. I'm not against "hard" games that are hard to reflect reality. I saw a sentence in a game review saying something like "this game is hard but nobody ever said war is easy".
But the repeating missions IS a bug. For example every time I dock to base I get the same screen saying I've been awarded for my 2nd mission. Even if it was the 4th or 5th mission. The date on this screen is always the same, etc etc.

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This game is not finished and if Ubisoft doesn't correct this bug I'll never buy again a game from them.


Carnac says you'll be preordering Assassin's Creed.
It's not a game I'm waiting for. Anyway last Ubisoft game I bought before SH4 was Faces of War which disappointed me a lot too (much too scripted SP missions, etc). I thought "maybe next time I'll have more luck". And no. That's all.
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Old 07-31-07, 03:14 PM   #2
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I really wish two things....

1) Someone could tell me what are all of these critical show stopping bugs that are so capable of twisting so many pairs of panties?

2) Why I am on my first career, 4th Submarine (S -37, USS Snapper, USS Drum and now USS Balao), 10th patrol and have never had a repeating mission or been retired?

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Old 07-31-07, 04:05 PM   #3
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I really wish two things....

1) Someone could tell me what are all of these critical show stopping bugs that are so capable of twisting so many pairs of panties?
There aren't any big showstoppers that are left. The radar being completely useless has been fixed, not to mention an improved interface. The fast/slow torpedo selector resetting bug has been fixed. The AI has been improved so as to not sit around with a thumb up their nose while you torpedo the whole convoy.

Those are the big ones off the top of my head that were a problem in 1.2. Sure, there are still some annoying bugs (like the transparent crewmembers that are on watch) but they hardly make the game unplayable.
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2) Why I am on my first career, 4th Submarine (S -37, USS Snapper, USS Drum and now USS Balao), 10th patrol and have never had a repeating mission or been retired?

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That’s because you probably actually follow your orders and complete your objectives. As long as I’ve completed my objective and radioed back to base I’ve never been give the same mission twice in a row. As a matter of fact, I’ve never been forced to retire either.

I’m really beginning to wonder if the whole repeating mission/retire bug is due to people not understanding how the game works. It’s along the same lines as the posts of people screaming “bug!” at the circle running torpedoes or the magnetic influence detonators not working. The circle runners really happened and the influence detonators never worked during the war.
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Old 07-31-07, 04:33 PM   #4
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I haven't had any repeat missions lately, but I've been testing with different campaign versions, so I don;t get to keep up a career long.

Anyway, the one time I had that bug was harbor photography at surabaya. I took all the required pictures until it said I was complete and went home. None the less got the same mission again and again.

Having started messing with patrols, that part of the campaign is actually very complicated, it might be as simple as a typo someplace, and it would be HARD to find having messed with it myself.

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Old 07-31-07, 08:29 PM   #5
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I really wish two things....

1) Someone could tell me what are all of these critical show stopping bugs that are so capable of twisting so many pairs of panties?
There aren't any big showstoppers that are left. The radar being completely useless has been fixed, not to mention an improved interface. The fast/slow torpedo selector resetting bug has been fixed. The AI has been improved so as to not sit around with a thumb up their nose while you torpedo the whole convoy.

Those are the big ones off the top of my head that were a problem in 1.2. Sure, there are still some annoying bugs (like the transparent crewmembers that are on watch) but they hardly make the game unplayable.
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2) Why I am on my first career, 4th Submarine (S -37, USS Snapper, USS Drum and now USS Balao), 10th patrol and have never had a repeating mission or been retired?

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That’s because you probably actually follow your orders and complete your objectives. As long as I’ve completed my objective and radioed back to base I’ve never been give the same mission twice in a row. As a matter of fact, I’ve never been forced to retire either.

I’m really beginning to wonder if the whole repeating mission/retire bug is due to people not understanding how the game works. It’s along the same lines as the posts of people screaming “bug!” at the circle running torpedoes or the magnetic influence detonators not working. The circle runners really happened and the influence detonators never worked during the war.
Give the man a cigar!

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Old 08-01-07, 09:14 AM   #6
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Desperately need 1.4

Am I the only one that's disappointed by how completely and utterly unfinished this game is?

Right after installing 1.3, I checked my bank balance and it was no different than before 1.3, just like 1.2 and 1.1 made no difference. I don't understand how a company that claims to want to give its customers enjoyable, quality entertainment products can sell a game like SH4 without making all their customers millionaires!

How the frack is anyone supposed to fully enjoy this game if they have to work for a living?! That's a good 8 hours every single weekday that I have to spend at work instead of stalking Jap convoys, all because Ubisoft couldn't be bothered releasing a finished product which contains everything one needs to get maximum enjoyment from it. Many times during the week I don't have time to play this game AT ALL! How am I supposed to fully appreciate the tension of being hunted, the adrenaline rush of being depth charged, the thrill of seeing (or hearing) your fish tear apart their prized tanker or battleship, or the attention to detail if I'm not able to play it constantly?

So please Ubisoft, we NEED a 1.4 patch. They are fully aware that we're only able to play games in our extremely limited spare time, so releasing a game this fun without also giving us the copious amounts of spare time required to be able to fully enjoy it is simply inexcusable.

I DEMAND PATCH 1.4 MILLION DOLLARS!
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Old 08-01-07, 09:26 AM   #7
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Maybe it is me, but I can't quite follow you here. What specific items in SH4 do you have an issue with? Is there anything in the list of the first post in the thread that you wish to add something to?
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Maybe it is me, but I can't quite follow you here. What specific items in SH4 do you have an issue with? Is there anything in the list of the first post in the thread that you wish to add something to?
It's not just you. I don't get what he's so upset about either. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" and all that.
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a finished product which contains everything one needs to get maximum enjoyment from it.
That's a perfect world ^^^, we are not in that one. SH4 1.3 is a great game, modders have and will do the rest


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Old 08-02-07, 06:49 AM   #10
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Am I the only one that's disappointed by how completely and utterly unfinished this game is?

Right after installing 1.3, I checked my bank balance and it was no different than before 1.3, just like 1.2 and 1.1 made no difference. I don't understand how a company that claims to want to give its customers enjoyable, quality entertainment products can sell a game like SH4 without making all their customers millionaires!

How the frack is anyone supposed to fully enjoy this game if they have to work for a living?! That's a good 8 hours every single weekday that I have to spend at work instead of stalking Jap convoys, all because Ubisoft couldn't be bothered releasing a finished product which contains everything one needs to get maximum enjoyment from it. Many times during the week I don't have time to play this game AT ALL! How am I supposed to fully appreciate the tension of being hunted, the adrenaline rush of being depth charged, the thrill of seeing (or hearing) your fish tear apart their prized tanker or battleship, or the attention to detail if I'm not able to play it constantly?

So please Ubisoft, we NEED a 1.4 patch. They are fully aware that we're only able to play games in our extremely limited spare time, so releasing a game this fun without also giving us the copious amounts of spare time required to be able to fully enjoy it is simply inexcusable.

I DEMAND PATCH 1.4 MILLION DOLLARS!
And each game should come with a sense of humor as good as yours. You have to excuse these people, especially the moderators, who have had to put with people throwing fits and crying because they can't see the periscopes go up and down if they spend their time in the conning tower instead of fighting their boat. Or they're hysterical about seeing the sun through the conning tower or some other detail inconsequential to how the game plays. Frankly, they're understandably a bit punch drunk right now and aren't ready for spot on humor that illustrates the ubsurdity of complaints by using ubsurdity. I can appreciate their position. I loved your post!
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Am I the only one that's disappointed by how completely and utterly unfinished this game is?

Right after installing 1.3, I checked my bank balance and it was no different than before 1.3, just like 1.2 and 1.1 made no difference. I don't understand how a company that claims to want to give its customers enjoyable, quality entertainment products can sell a game like SH4 without making all their customers millionaires!

How the frack is anyone supposed to fully enjoy this game if they have to work for a living?! That's a good 8 hours every single weekday that I have to spend at work instead of stalking Jap convoys, all because Ubisoft couldn't be bothered releasing a finished product which contains everything one needs to get maximum enjoyment from it. Many times during the week I don't have time to play this game AT ALL! How am I supposed to fully appreciate the tension of being hunted, the adrenaline rush of being depth charged, the thrill of seeing (or hearing) your fish tear apart their prized tanker or battleship, or the attention to detail if I'm not able to play it constantly?

So please Ubisoft, we NEED a 1.4 patch. They are fully aware that we're only able to play games in our extremely limited spare time, so releasing a game this fun without also giving us the copious amounts of spare time required to be able to fully enjoy it is simply inexcusable.

I DEMAND PATCH 1.4 MILLION DOLLARS!
And each game should come with a sense of humor as good as yours. You have to excuse these people, especially the moderators, who have had to put with people throwing fits and crying because they can't see the periscopes go up and down if they spend their time in the conning tower instead of fighting their boat. Or they're hysterical about seeing the sun through the conning tower or some other detail inconsequential to how the game plays. Frankly, they're understandably a bit punch drunk right now and aren't ready for spot on humor that illustrates the ubsurdity of complaints by using ubsurdity. I can appreciate their position. I loved your post!
I'm with RR: I don't see what people are finding to argue about. nomdeplume's post was brilliantly funny.
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I really wish two things....

1) Someone could tell me what are all of these critical show stopping bugs that are so capable of twisting so many pairs of panties?
There aren't any big showstoppers that are left. The radar being completely useless has been fixed, not to mention an improved interface. The fast/slow torpedo selector resetting bug has been fixed. The AI has been improved so as to not sit around with a thumb up their nose while you torpedo the whole convoy.
Wrong. There is the repeating missions bug. The one thats filling up the last 4 pages of this thread. Maybe lay of the <Edited... JCC> for a while, your vision seems to be suffering

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2) Why I am on my first career, 4th Submarine (S -37, USS Snapper, USS Drum and now USS Balao), 10th patrol and have never had a repeating mission or been retired?

JCC
That’s because you probably actually follow your orders and complete your objectives. As long as I’ve completed my objective and radioed back to base I’ve never been give the same mission twice in a row. As a matter of fact, I’ve never been forced to retire either.

I’m really beginning to wonder if the whole repeating mission/retire bug is due to people not understanding how the game works.
Wow, getting strong pings from a < Edited JCC> ...off my starboard. Please don't insult my intelligence, and everyone else's that has complained about this bug. I am annoyed enough as it is. If you have not had it count yourself lucky.

As for people claiming this bug is a 'feature', do your crews a favour and drown yourself at sea. The devs did not create half a dozen missions in a dozen different locations, just to then send people to the same spot time and time again to do the same thing. That may have happened in real life, but this is a game, which people play to escape from the monotony of life. If I wanted to spend months on end living in boredom, with the threat of death looming over me, I would have joined the Navy, or maybe engaged in a conversation with you.

have a nice day y'all

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Charming.

The repeating missions bug is certainly interesting. I've experienced it once, I think, in the months I've been playing SH4, and I only got it a few times in a row. If I get a mission to somewhere I don't want to go, I ignore it. I can understand that it would be annoying, but it's certainly not a show stopper for at least a few "lucky" people. And, there's not much joy to be had in completing missions, anyway; a few hundred extra renoun. It doesn't seem to actually affect anything else, so I see it as more of a suggestion as to where it might be worth going.

On the other hand, I continually receive commendations for my "1 war patrol", despite being on my 3rd or 4th in my current career. There's definitely something warped there. Would be nice if it was fixed, but it's just stupid, not a show-stopper.
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Old 08-14-07, 02:38 PM   #14
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I really wish two things....

1) Someone could tell me what are all of these critical show stopping bugs that are so capable of twisting so many pairs of panties?
There aren't any big showstoppers that are left. The radar being completely useless has been fixed, not to mention an improved interface. The fast/slow torpedo selector resetting bug has been fixed. The AI has been improved so as to not sit around with a thumb up their nose while you torpedo the whole convoy.
Wrong. There is the repeating missions bug. The one thats filling up the last 4 pages of this thread. Maybe lay of the <Edited... JCC> for a while, your vision seems to be suffering

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2) Why I am on my first career, 4th Submarine (S -37, USS Snapper, USS Drum and now USS Balao), 10th patrol and have never had a repeating mission or been retired?

JCC
That’s because you probably actually follow your orders and complete your objectives. As long as I’ve completed my objective and radioed back to base I’ve never been give the same mission twice in a row. As a matter of fact, I’ve never been forced to retire either.

I’m really beginning to wonder if the whole repeating mission/retire bug is due to people not understanding how the game works.
Wow, getting strong pings from a < Edited JCC> ...off my starboard. Please don't insult my intelligence, and everyone else's that has complained about this bug. I am annoyed enough as it is. If you have not had it count yourself lucky.

As for people claiming this bug is a 'feature', do your crews a favour and drown yourself at sea. The devs did not create half a dozen missions in a dozen different locations, just to then send people to the same spot time and time again to do the same thing. That may have happened in real life, but this is a game, which people play to escape from the monotony of life. If I wanted to spend months on end living in boredom, with the threat of death looming over me, I would have joined the Navy, or maybe engaged in a conversation with you.

have a nice day y'all
Well, I guess I can take some time off from my <Edited JCC> and control my <Edited JCC> tendancies to direct you to this thread.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...d=1#post621305

As far as the rest of your comments go please check your PMs.

Thanks

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And isn't that smoking spot on the wharf where harrymanback was standing just a few seconds ago?

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