'Nashi'

w-subcommander · 07-31-07, 11:08 AM

I am Russian by origin and had lived there for a long time (almost 30 years). Last time I was there July 2005. I was very surprised that there are a lot of skinheads openly showed up, compare to them Nashi is just nothing. Anyway "Nashi" movement IMHO is new kind of russian young lumpens (see wikipedia "lumpproletarit" ). I actually ashamed of raising nationalism in Russia, but I think part of responsibility for that lyies() on West.
My city was usually pro-west city (if you have heard about St.Petersburg).
Thats a pity that a lot of intellectuals are becoming anti-americanist( USA in this case is major image of WEST modern culture and politics). New generation (from 10-to 28) is become new patriots (and it is very good) but at the same time a lot of young people , i am afraid about 2/3, are feeding with nationalistic and ultranationalistic(about 5-10%) ideas). Its my evaluation.
The really funny think that way USA protects democracy is by killing it...
All these Yale guys thinks that only 1 kind of democracy is possible the... American kind, build on idividual's values and private property basis...
Russia was historically build by society values in priority...
In Russia there is a proverb. "What is goog for Russian can be lethal for German".
Hitler was made by Versaille Treaty ( Allies) and fear of bolshevism.
Russian Nacism can be made by So-called Coalition foreign policy toward Russia and fear of demographical death.

07-31-07, 11:08 AM	#5
w-subcommander A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: St.Petersburg, Russia / NYC, USA Posts: 80 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am Russian by origin and had lived there for a long time (almost 30 years). Last time I was there July 2005. I was very surprised that there are a lot of skinheads openly showed up, compare to them Nashi is just nothing. Anyway "Nashi" movement IMHO is new kind of russian young lumpens (see wikipedia "lumpproletarit" ). I actually ashamed of raising nationalism in Russia, but I think part of responsibility for that lyies() on West. My city was usually pro-west city (if you have heard about St.Petersburg). Thats a pity that a lot of intellectuals are becoming anti-americanist( USA in this case is major image of WEST modern culture and politics). New generation (from 10-to 28) is become new patriots (and it is very good) but at the same time a lot of young people , i am afraid about 2/3, are feeding with nationalistic and ultranationalistic(about 5-10%) ideas). Its my evaluation. The really funny think that way USA protects democracy is by killing it... All these Yale guys thinks that only 1 kind of democracy is possible the... American kind, build on idividual's values and private property basis... Russia was historically build by society values in priority... In Russia there is a proverb. "What is goog for Russian can be lethal for German". Hitler was made by Versaille Treaty ( Allies) and fear of bolshevism. Russian Nacism can be made by So-called Coalition foreign policy toward Russia and fear of demographical death. __________________ Sincerely Yours W-SUB COMMANDER, USS PardonMyFrench Never Let Schooling Get in the Way of Your Education. (~MT)