Save game vs. "pause?"

sqk7744 · 07-30-07, 05:57 PM

Amen SteamWake!

I always say, unless your computer is running the air traffic control system shut it off when not in use for extended periods of time (1+ hours) and after 12 years in IT Windows OS's still need a reboot every now and again to cure all the memory leaks.

After all, starting your car increases wear and burns fuel, but we don't leave our cars continuously running. (in temps above the Arctic that is)

theluckyone17 · 07-30-07, 06:45 PM

On the other hand, from a mechanical engineering stand point, when you power up a computer, it heats up. As things heat, they expand. When you shut the system down, it cools, and contracts. Things only expand and contract so many times before they fatigue and break. While we're talking about a low amount of fatigue (after all, the temperature differential across most of the system isn't all that high), we're also talking about a relatively tiny component.

Now I haven't studied this, keep in mind... but you might want to take a look at these:
Google Search: power computer off versus leave it on

longam · 07-30-07, 06:55 PM

It is strange how I always shutdown at home, yet supporting more then 150 systems at a prior job and even few as 12 at current job, yet we still leave them run 24/7. (backup)

I guess it relates to users being more productive rather then waiting for boot up and update lag as you would with shutting down every night.

SteamWake · 07-30-07, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by longam

It is strange how I always shutdown at home, yet supporting more then 150 systems at a prior job and even few as 12 at current job, yet we still leave them run 24/7. (backup)

I guess it relates to users being more productive rather then waiting for boot up and update lag as you would with shutting down every night.

Not very "green" of you :p

No seriously if you got money to burn (shrug).

One other thing I forgot to mention is that depending on what part of the country you live in leaving your maching on while away at work or whatever can lead to heartbreak.

Here is the southeast US we have lightning storms on a daily basis. Im assuming being a buisness your behind some solid surge protection and also have back up power. The typical home 'player' is not. They may have surge protection but trust me the ulitimate surge protector is the power switch.

ReallyDedPoet · 07-30-07, 07:58 PM

Save, save and yes save

RDP

Snuffy · 07-31-07, 07:50 AM

I for one have been a firm believer in shutting down the system when I am not on it, so I save and get out of the game. (BTW, I save every 12 hours of game play.)

I'm not too worried about load times as I have a fairly robust system.

What I do worry about is the fact that as I am connected to the internet, (broadband cable, router with firewall, etc.) and knowing the types of idiots that are out there just looking for a ping, I figure the less time I leave my system open to something like that the better off I am going to be.

So for security reasons alone ... shut it down.

sqk7744 · 07-31-07, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Snuffy

I for one have been a firm believer in shutting down the system when I am not on it, so I save and get out of the game. (BTW, I save every 12 hours of game play.)

I'm not too worried about load times as I have a fairly robust system.

What I do worry about is the fact that as I am connected to the internet, (broadband cable, router with firewall, etc.) and knowing the types of idiots that are out there just looking for a ping, I figure the less time I leave my system open to something like that the better off I am going to be.

So for security reasons alone ... shut it down.

SQK7744_SECURITY_RANT=ON

And 'if' someone figures out how to get your; dhcp IP from cable or dsl, makes it thru your modem and router w/firewall (check and set these settings)
Firewall Protection: Enable
IPSec Pass through: Disable
PPTP Pass through: Disable
L2TP Pass through: Disable
block WAN ping requests): Enable

It is still worth checking your bios and disabling 'wake on LAN ping'. A local internet protection suite is also a good: Norton, MacAfee, etc.

SQK7744_SECURITY_RANT=OFF

For clean power issues, would suggest a APC UPS (750es $80 usd) or similar. As stated by SteamWake, a good idea to unplug both power and internet connection from wall in lightning prone areas. After all a $2500+ computer will gladly give it's life to protect a 10 cent fuse.

No hacker in the world has figured-out how to plug your machine back into the wall via telekinesis

Time for a coffee refill, -morning Gents

07-30-07, 05:57 PM	#1
sqk7744 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ~About 60' below Posts: 1,150 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Amen SteamWake! I always say, unless your computer is running the air traffic control system shut it off when not in use for extended periods of time (1+ hours) and after 12 years in IT Windows OS's still need a reboot every now and again to cure all the memory leaks. After all, starting your car increases wear and burns fuel, but we don't leave our cars continuously running. (in temps above the Arctic that is) __________________ " All Ships can dive, but only Submarine's surface!" MODS: KillFlags - Elco PT109 - AOB Attack Course Tutorial

07-30-07, 07:58 PM	#5
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,888 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Save, save and yes save RDP __________________ Back in the Day

07-31-07, 07:50 AM	#6
Snuffy XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 420 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I for one have been a firm believer in shutting down the system when I am not on it, so I save and get out of the game. (BTW, I save every 12 hours of game play.) I'm not too worried about load times as I have a fairly robust system. What I do worry about is the fact that as I am connected to the internet, (broadband cable, router with firewall, etc.) and knowing the types of idiots that are out there just looking for a ping, I figure the less time I leave my system open to something like that the better off I am going to be. So for security reasons alone ... shut it down. __________________ ----------------- Snuffy!

07-30-07, 06:45 PM	#2
theluckyone17 Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: Niskayuna, NY Posts: 482 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	On the other hand, from a mechanical engineering stand point, when you power up a computer, it heats up. As things heat, they expand. When you shut the system down, it cools, and contracts. Things only expand and contract so many times before they fatigue and break. While we're talking about a low amount of fatigue (after all, the temperature differential across most of the system isn't all that high), we're also talking about a relatively tiny component. Now I haven't studied this, keep in mind... but you might want to take a look at these: Google Search: power computer off versus leave it on

07-30-07, 06:55 PM	#3
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	It is strange how I always shutdown at home, yet supporting more then 150 systems at a prior job and even few as 12 at current job, yet we still leave them run 24/7. (backup) I guess it relates to users being more productive rather then waiting for boot up and update lag as you would with shutting down every night.