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Old 07-13-07, 10:18 AM   #1
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Any Light Machinegun found on a German Sub would be the MG34, Belt-Fed, air cooled. On the conning tower there would have been notches to mount the MG34 so that it could serve as a defensive weapon or to take out survivors. I have also seen pictures of longer pole mounts that allowed the MG34 to be served as a AA gun against small planes
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Old 07-13-07, 10:52 AM   #2
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Any Light Machinegun found on a German Sub would be the MG34, Belt-Fed, air cooled. On the conning tower there would have been notches to mount the MG34 so that it could serve as a defensive weapon or to take out survivors. I have also seen pictures of longer pole mounts that allowed the MG34 to be served as a AA gun against small planes
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Old 07-13-07, 11:02 AM   #3
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Any Light Machinegun found on a German Sub would be the MG34, Belt-Fed, air cooled. On the conning tower there would have been notches to mount the MG34 so that it could serve as a defensive weapon or to take out survivors. I have also seen pictures of longer pole mounts that allowed the MG34 to be served as a AA gun against small planes
AA and as a detterant to deck crews on merchants to man their guns I can understand
To "take out survivors" I most certainly don't
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or to take out survivors.
why would you wanna do that ?
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or to take out survivors.
why would you wanna do that ?
There is one recorded testimony of a U-Boat commander that gave orders to shoot survivors i dont know his name but he was hanged for that in the end of the war because one survivor managed to escape to tell the story, i believe this wasnt the only U-boat commander that did this but for the record only one case is registered.
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or to take out survivors.
why would you wanna do that ?
There is one recorded testimony of a U-Boat commander that gave orders to shoot survivors i dont know his name but he was hanged for that in the end of the war because one survivor managed to escape to tell the story, i believe this wasnt the only U-boat commander that did this but for the record only one case is registered.
you mean Kptlt. Heinz-Wilhelm Eck ? (U-852)
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There is one recorded testimony of a U-Boat commander that gave orders to shoot survivors i dont know his name but he was hanged for that in the end of the war because one survivor managed to escape to tell the story, i believe this wasnt the only U-boat commander that did this but for the record only one case is registered.
Thank god these testimonies were few and far between
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Im going to get yelled at for this one but, you never saw U-571, the movie, they gun down a whole life boat full of women and children and a few guys.
plus i've read accounts where the sub would surface after sinking a warship and gunning down the crew, afterall they were trying to sink the sub.
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Im going to get yelled at for this one but, you never saw U-571, the movie, they gun down a whole life boat full of women and children and a few guys.
plus i've read accounts where the sub would surface after sinking a warship and gunning down the crew, afterall they were trying to sink the sub.
Well U 571 is total BS and based on half a dozen different subs and actions so I wouldnt believe a thing in that film
Although I probably havent read as many uboat books as some on here I dont think I have read one account of shooting survivers
Plenty of giving them water and supplies and then radioing in the position
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Im going to get yelled at for this one but, you never saw U-571, the movie, they gun down a whole life boat full of women and children and a few guys.
plus i've read accounts where the sub would surface after sinking a warship and gunning down the crew, afterall they were trying to sink the sub.
One Hollywood interpretation of several stories does not a factual account create.

Remember, Hollywierd exists to sell movies, and the best way to do that is to either, A: Increase the sex appeal, or B: Increase the shock value. Since none of us wants to think about sex on a sub, that leaves only the shock value option available.
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Im going to get yelled at for this one but, you never saw U-571, the movie, they gun down a whole life boat full of women and children and a few guys.
plus i've read accounts where the sub would surface after sinking a warship and gunning down the crew, afterall they were trying to sink the sub.
What accounts ? :hmm:
A link or further details would be helpful.
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Im going to get yelled at for this one but, you never saw U-571, the movie, they gun down a whole life boat full of women and children and a few guys.
plus i've read accounts where the sub would surface after sinking a warship and gunning down the crew, afterall they were trying to sink the sub.
If you can get a hold of a book called "10 years and 20 days". Its the autobiography from Karl Doenitz. He even said the willful killing of survivors was forbidden. Adm. Doentiz even went as far as to try and rescue survivors from a POW ship off the coast of AFrica that was torpedoed, and ended up getting in a lot of hot water by his higher ups for doing so. His Uboat captains FOUGHT him on his order to abandon the rescue efforts (even though under threat of getting bombed by allied bombers due to the carrying 100's of survivors on the decks of the uboat, therefore unable to submerge) .

The instances of Uboat captains ordering the shooting of survivors was VERY rare and punishable. The sad fact is that there were evil people on all sides from all countries that did things that Most leaders would not have approved of. But for the most part the common sailor, airman, soldier was a patriot in thier own minds, fighting for the honor of thier own country.
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