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Just gemme onea these
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Funny story with the MP7 is that one high ranking bundeswehr officer managed to shoot himself in the foot with an MP7 in Kabul.
Since he was too embarassed to admit his incompetence, he launched an investigation into "safety faults" with the MP7 which left H&K quite baffled, as they had designed a fool proof weapon, but obviously not a general proof one. Regarding the "practical test", the MP7 has definitely been fired in anger by now. The Bundeswehr is limited to the "quiet" north by order of our cowardly politicians, but even the quiet north has its share of ambushes. Also KSK operates everywhere and does normal combat deployment with US forces.
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![]() The only problem is, it was a cover up from the governments standpoint because the evidence as analyzed shows a 30.06 caliber bullet doing the dirty work, passing through the heart from the right side, exiting on the left side of the body. He was most certainly killed by ground fire, and their are two soldiers that swear they talked with him prior to him passing out and dying, though this was covered up as well. They may have been Aussies too. I forgot. And it might have been two British soldiers that pulled the trigger too. This is the problem - most of the evidence presented was presented by governments that desperately wanted to show him downed by one of our pilots, so this is why you will find so much conflicting information on the subject. That is why I enjoyed that program - they waded through all the conflicting detail, and talked with a few survivors (who were quite old) to get some actual accounts. I need to find that program again. It totally changed my opinion on what happened that day. If I don't have it, I know someone that probably does, so I'll forward it on to you. -S |
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Anyway, back on topic, here's an interesting take on the argument of whether small calibre rounds can do the job, with FN's funky (and controversial) FiveseveN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-seveN ![]()
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All around though, (both short and and at range) the 5.56 is probably the right round for the job. The .45 is rather pathetic at any range. -S |
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Hey CHock - I found the program in question incase you see it at your local library - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/redbaron/
It was a .303 bullet fired from long range because it was still in the body, or at least recovered. -S PS. THis is the part I was talking about: Quote:
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Sorry I don't get it:
Was Richthofen shot down by a PDW?? ![]() ![]() ![]()
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U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/ |
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-S PS. One more thing - the military is back in the market for a new .45 because of Iraq. The Berretta is just not cutting it. I'll see if I can find the proposal. |
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Here is the Air Forces proposal. They are not the only ones either from what I understand.
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http://www.defensetech.org/archives/003439.html |
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