McCain Campaign Shakeup

[Stealth Hunter]

Hours ago, John McCain suffered shattering effects after his financial manager and campaign manager BOTH stepped out of his office and resigned their positions on his staff. Anderson Cooper is currently talking about it on CNN with several political advisors. It's not on the CNN main page as of right now, but it will be in a few hours.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I'll post the link when it shows up.

[Tchocky]

It's quite normal to desert a sinking ship.

[P_Funk]

The USS McCain is a shadow of her former self.

[Stealth Hunter]

I'm happy about it.

Go Barack!

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

It's quite normal to desert a sinking ship.

I could not have said it any better.

[Heibges]

They were fired, they didn't resign.

Originally Posted by Heibges

They were fired, they didn't resign.

McCain should take a page out of his own playbook and fire/resign himself.
His support and participation in the failed immigration bill was the death of his campaign. He should recognize it and move on (pardon the pun).

[Heibges]

I hate to think this immigration issue will decide the Presidential Election.

Folks that voted against the bill did so only for political advantage without a thought to reality.

The folks who want all the immigrants expelled are basically saying it is possible from a logistics standpoint to relocate all the people in New York City.

Originally Posted by Heibges

I hate to think this immigration issue will decide the Presidential Election.

Folks that voted against the bill did so only for political advantage without a thought to reality.

The folks who want all the immigrants expelled are basically saying it is possible from a logistics standpoint to relocate all the people in New York City.

The immigration issue will be part of it I'm sure but it won't be the final decider. It is, in my estimation, the final decider for one John McCain's run for the nomination as candidate for that election. He, along with Ted Kennedy were the co-sponsors.

The senators who voted against the bill did so because democracy worked and they listened to their constituents, who those senators are elected to represent.

Ultimately two things have to happen before any reform should take place; enforce current law in regards to businesses and legal proceedings, and secure the border.
Before those two issues are addressed any reform is little more than 'feel good' legislation which is real political posturing without a solution.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Heibges

I hate to think this immigration issue will decide the Presidential Election.

Folks that voted against the bill did so only for political advantage without a thought to reality.

The folks who want all the immigrants expelled are basically saying it is possible from a logistics standpoint to relocate all the people in New York City.

Could not have put it better...Democrats really are living in some dream world...theay are quick to condemn but offer NO Solutions....if so Where and what are they??? Please some one list them...somewhere...

Democrat Solutions / Republicans Solutions...

I would like to see both proposed solutions for all the major things pressing this coutry and the world...The war in Iraq...pollution,energy,etc etc...

I don't see many or any of the Democrats doing anything but trying to bash the Republicans which to me makes the Dems seem weak morally and or politically...is any one actually giving any "Realistic" solutions for any of the problems...frankly I am amazed that the idea for temp work permits was even thought of, it was a great idea...some solution is better than doing nothing ...which is where we still are...I hope in reality America eventually come around and realizes that it needs to seize control of the huge drug trade and control it like other countries sucessfully do....just because Cocaine or Marijuana were to become legalized the assumption that I am going to run out and become an addict is absurd...I am a big boy and thanks to some scienctific proof I already know that stuff will kill ya.

I really believe it or not realize that alot of the resistance to change is the "Old" guard...old ideas and old people...really be trippy if all the 18-24 yr olds actually voted.

[Heibges]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Could not have put it better...Democrats really are living in some dream world...theay are quick to condemn but offer NO Solutions....if so Where and what are they??? Please some one list them...somewhere...

Democrat Solutions / Republicans Solutions...

I would like to see both proposed solutions for all the major things pressing this coutry and the world...The war in Iraq...pollution,energy,etc etc...

I don't see many or any of the Democrats doing anything but trying to bash the Republicans which to me makes the Dems seem weak morally and or politically...is any one actually giving any "Realistic" solutions for any of the problems...frankly I am amazed that the idea for temp work permits was even thought of, it was a great idea...some solution is better than doing nothing ...which is where we still are...I hope in reality America eventually come around and realizes that it needs to seize control of the huge drug trade and control it like other countries sucessfully do....just because Cocaine or Marijuana were to become legalized the assumption that I am going to run out and become an addict is absurd...I am a big boy and thanks to some scienctific proof I already know that stuff will kill ya.

I really believe it or not realize that alot of the resistance to change is the "Old" guard...old ideas and old people...really be trippy if all the 18-24 yr olds actually voted.

The Democrats really chickened out which is sad.

They should have pushed for immediate withdrawal.

Unless they were going to send another 500,000 men over to Iraq, the so called "Surge", was what AL likes to call a strategy based on hope. Bush basically fought a delaying engagement to try and shift the blame to the Democrats.

Bush and Cheney, the Draft Dodging Dynamic Duo, need to take responsibilty for the mess they have created.

Just look at the German occupations of France, Russia, and Yugoslavia.

Or the French and Americans in Vietnam.

Or the English in America in 1776.

Occupations, regardless of the semantics and sophistry you use to describe them, are always drawn out and costly.

Occupation as a strategy is like punting on first down, and hoping your defense will win the game by scoring a safety, running back an interception or recovering a fumble in the endzone.

That is an odd rambling response Heibges. It doesn't address the pertinant question as to the plan after withdrawal. In a way I understand your answer because the democrats haven't articulated any plan that you or anyone else can grab hold of.

100 days in control of the congress with 300 congressional investigations started.
No plan for any resolution of my countries issues. Don't get me wrong the less gov't does the better for me and you, but come on if the Democrats were elected for such a 'mandate', where the hell are they. Anyone who voted for them should be very angry with their performance. Where is the plan?

[Heibges]

The response was really only the first line.

The Democrats chickened out.

It appears no one has a plan.

But it's 100% Bush's fault as he is not doing anything effective. Remember he is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. There is NO group in Congress responsible for formulating military strategy.

Originally Posted by Heibges

The response was really only the first line.

The Democrats chickened out.

It appears no one has a plan.

But it's 100% Bush's fault as he is not doing anything effective. Remember he is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. There is NO group in Congress responsible for formulating military strategy.

My apologizes, I looked at the thread in total and perhaps drew the wrong conclusion.

I don't think the Democrates pulled the chicken. They just don't have any plan other than to bash Bush. After all congress, Democrats included, did approve all of GWB's actions in OCT 2002. Democrats included regardless of their backing away now, based on bad intellegence , or we were lied to.

I think its time to admit that the Democrats have no plan, much less a better plan.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by waste gate

100 days in control of the congress with 300 congressional investigations started.

Payback time? Seems most things thus far is about payback.

Beginning in 1995, Republican committees commenced a series of investigations, almost exclusively directed at the Clinton administration and the Democratic National Committee.

In all fairness as far as 100 days, how many days did the Republicans have? A little over 2000?

I think its time to admit that the Democrats have no plan, much less a better plan.

I don't think it's any big secret that the Democrats have been pushing for troop withdrawl.