forced retirment in patch 1.3 ?

[Takeda Shingen]

This is why it is wisest to wait for the official release. Betas are called Betas for a reason.

My question is this:
Is it gonna be A FEATURE or an OPTION?
Let me rephrase that: can I have a total control over that thing?

[STEED]

As I remember from SH1 if you failed to be aggressive three patrols in a row you got a desk job. :rotfl:

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by STEED

As I remember from SH1 if you failed to be aggressive three patrols in a row you got a desk job. :rotfl:

Historically speaking, that was how it happened. Sometimes skippers were relieved after two unsuccessful patrols.

As far as career length, I believe the average was 5 patrols before being moved to a desk job. Isn't SH4 setup that after a set amount of patrols you need to spend renown to stay in command?

[TopCat]

Originally Posted by Nightmare

Historically speaking, that was how it happened. Sometimes skippers were relieved after two unsuccessful patrols.

As far as career length, I believe the average was 5 patrols before being moved to a desk job. Isn't SH4 setup that after a set amount of patrols you need to spend renown to stay in command?

Yeah, lucky Americans. German Kaleuns being too little aggressive were executed ...

[Von Manteuffel]

The documentation with the beta 1.03 patch says that careers will end after between 5 and 8 missions. It claims this is historically accurate. We need to wait and see what the official patch does.

[w-subcommander]

Originally Posted by Von Manteuffel

The documentation with the beta 1.03 patch says that careers will end after between 5 and 8 missions. It claims this is historically accurate. We need to wait and see what the official patch does.

I think you re wrong. Because this information about 5-8 patrols career limitations {

"3.4.4 Carrer length and Time between patrols
Silent Hunter 4 simulates the career of a captain according to real practices of the US Submarine Force of the period.
Depending on your performance you can expect your career to last between 5 and 8 patrols.
Of course, real silly results such as sinking your own capital ships will lead to a quick and timely termination of your command." frov read me v. 1.0.0. *inserted 7/10/07}


belongs to original version of sh4 1.0.0. I believe you saw this in 1.3 beta readme but in sections belong to previous patches changes.

[DimDoms]

Originally Posted by TopCat

Yeah, lucky Americans. German Kaleuns being too little aggressive were executed ...

Have to ask to where you got that from, I haven't heard of that before?

I don't mind forced retirement, me... <ducks>

D.

[Saintaw]

Oh what a shame!!!

I personally don't care, as long as I get rid of that ********* BONNET!!!

[Prof]

Originally Posted by DimDoms

Have to ask to where you got that from, I haven't heard of that before?

It's a slight exaggeration. The only U-boat commander to be sentenced to death for 'lack of aggression' was Heinz Hirsacker, and he was given a gun with which to commit suicide before the sentence could be carried out.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by DimDoms

I don't mind forced retirement, me... <ducks>

D.

That kind of talk will get you stuffed in the deck gun and fired at a destroyer.

[TopCat]

Originally Posted by DimDoms

Have to ask to where you got that from, I haven't heard of that before?

I don't mind forced retirement, me... <ducks>

D.

I know of 2 U-Boot Commanders that were executed during WWII:
KpLt Hirsacker, U-572 (Court-Martial Shot for cowardice in 1942)
Oblt Oskar Kusch, U-154 (1943)

Source: Peter Padfield, war beneath the sea, submarine conflict 1939-1945

[Werewolf13]

Originally Posted by Nightmare

Historically speaking, that was how it happened. Sometimes skippers were relieved after two unsuccessful patrols.

As far as career length, I believe the average was 5 patrols before being moved to a desk job. Isn't SH4 setup that after a set amount of patrols you need to spend renown to stay in command?

Quite right. Many, many Captains were relieved after 1 or 2 patrols for lack of aggressiveness and/or poor performance. In addition after 5 Patrols or so a Captain got promoted and moved to command a Sub squadron, was sent to a staff job or went to new construction which took him out of the war for as long as a year. Some even left subs entirely and went to the surface forces.

[John Channing]

I agree... however I am on my seventh patrol and ComSubPac just keeps sending me out there.

COMPLETE ALL OF YOUR OBJECTIVES PEOPLE!

Renown alone won't keep you in the Fleet.

JCC

[Monica Lewinsky]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

This is why it is wisest to wait for the official release. Betas are called Betas for a reason.

Wise words.

Avoiding the entire thing until official is available, but reading all the rants plus and minus is amusing reading.