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Old 06-29-07, 10:18 PM   #1
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I think, although I haven't seen the movie, that Mr. Moore's discussion revolves around the US system, not Canada.
Yes and the article posted by Subman makes a number of references to the state of the Canadian system in reply to Moore's own references to Canada's system.
Don't question me on the Canadian health system as compared to the American health system. I'm tied between the two (my in-laws are Canadian - and I have an uncle that would tell you a thin or two that needs hip replacement - basically, he is going to have to pay for it out of pocket!). My wife as well as my sister in law had the exact same procedure, and I can tell you that it is night and day between the treatment of the two. I am actually ticked at the Canadian health care system, their paint peeling off the walls, and I can tell you that even though their people are great, they are severly under-funded! My mother-in-law recently died (about a month now) of cancer, and I absolutely love the nurses, and at least one of her non-French doctors. But they do not have even a fraction of the capability that they have over here, or the hand and foot treatment my wife recently got! Her sister got none of this treatment - no funding. Period.

The Canadian system is a joke compared to the US. Do not even get me started.

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Old 07-01-07, 03:22 AM   #2
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Don't question me on the Canadian health system as compared to the American health system. I'm tied between the two (my in-laws are Canadian - and I have an uncle that would tell you a thin or two that needs hip replacement - basically, he is going to have to pay for it out of pocket!). My wife as well as my sister in law had the exact same procedure, and I can tell you that it is night and day between the treatment of the two. I am actually ticked at the Canadian health care system, their paint peeling off the walls, and I can tell you that even though their people are great, they are severly under-funded! My mother-in-law recently died (about a month now) of cancer, and I absolutely love the nurses, and at least one of her non-French doctors. But they do not have even a fraction of the capability that they have over here, or the hand and foot treatment my wife recently got! Her sister got none of this treatment - no funding. Period.

The Canadian system is a joke compared to the US. Do not even get me started.

-S
I'd be interested to know which Canadian city this occured in....
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Old 07-01-07, 05:53 AM   #3
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Everything should be free!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND and no one should have to work..yeah yeah!

Everyone should live in mansions made outta gold and drive Hummers and ...and
the government should not tell me what to do and the cops shouldn't tell me what to do.........
wait if no one has to work then there will be no cops and government people....

yea yea and if there are no cops and government then I can rule the world....
oh but wait that means id have to work...

OK WAIT!!

1.Everything should be free.

2.Everyone should live how they want to live.

3.Everyone should have what they want to have.

4.If you don't want to work that's cool cause no one has to.

5.Some one needs to be forced to work so everyone else can get what they deserve.

6.When your forced to work for everyone else, you can't sabotage stuff ,like the Jews did to the Nazis when they were forced to work.

7.AND NO MORE STUPID RULES

ok that about covers my plan of the perfect world.

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I vote that the worst post ever.
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Old 07-01-07, 06:44 AM   #5
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I vote that the worst post ever.
I dunno P_Funk.

I believe I could do worse.

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Old 07-01-07, 06:51 AM   #6
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I vote that the worst post ever.
I dunno P_Funk.

I believe I could do worse.

:hmm:
No need to try.
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Old 07-05-07, 10:44 AM   #7
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I'd be interested to know which Canadian city this occured in....
I've been in the Royal Vic (Did I pronouce it right?), as well, as one other in Montreal that I forget the name. Been to one in Toronto, another in Kingston, and even one in Cambelford, ON too. Been married for 10 years and dealt with one hospital or another throughout those years for various family members.

All of these hospitals severely underfunded, and they also have staffing problems. I talked to one of the nurses back in May and they just can't find enough people, period. Why? They need to be paid better so that they have more people with incentive to get into the field. Their hospitals are just plain bad compared to what we have in the US. We have country clubs by comparrison.

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PS. In Kingston last time (I was there in Feb), there is one Chemo doctor in in several hundred km (However far Toronto or Montreal is from there)! And they are scared he will leave! You should see the line up of patients just to see this one guy!
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All of these hospitals severely underfunded, and they also have staffing problems. I talked to one of the nurses back in May and they just can't find enough people, period. Why? They need to be paid better so that they have more people with incentive to get into the field. Their hospitals are just plain bad compared to what we have in the US. We have country clubs by comparrison.
Thats because American hospitals benefit from the pursuit of profit. Canadian hospitals are private run but not for profit, or at least not for the dynamic market based profit that would inflate the costs. Its a tough choice really. Give everyone a slice or give some people a better crumb. That government in the 90s started to cut costs as a result of the massive national deficit explains much of why we're today so underfunded, the natural expensive tendencies of health care aside. But with the Canadian economy looking up and the Federal government receiving surpluses we should be able to see an increase in the federal spending on health care. There is also a movement to reform the system, hopefully without turning it into a bastard American system.
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