Germany bans Cruise film shoot

[Heibges]

Originally Posted by August

I didn't say I wanted to join them.

The question I was addressing is whether a person from a politically unpopular (but not illegal) group or religion should be denied the right to work in a private sector job.

It doesn't have to be Scientologists, any unpopular social or ethnic group will do. For example substitute the word "Scientologist" for "Communist" in any of the anti diatrabes in this thread including yours above and they look like Joe MaCarthy speeches.

But like i've said 3-4 times already, It's the Germans country, therefore a German decision.

He is not being denied the right to work, nor is he being denied the right to enter Germany. The production company will just have to shoot at a different location.

[August]

Originally Posted by Heibges

He is not being denied the right to work, nor is he being denied the right to enter Germany. The production company will just have to shoot at a different location.

Maybe so, or he will be replaced by a more politically correct actor, which would then be a defacto denial of the right to work. But again it's their country.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

Maybe so, or he will be replaced by a more politically correct actor, which would then be a defacto denial of the right to work. But again it's their country.

Yes, a denial to work, legally, and meeting the laws as well as the constitution. I am sure it is exactly the same in you country, when the specified conditions are met.

[Smaragdadler]

Originally Posted by August

I didn't say I wanted to join them.

The question I was addressing is whether a person from a politically unpopular (but not illegal) group or religion should be denied the right to work in a private sector job.

It doesn't have to be Scientologists, any unpopular social or ethnic group will do. For example substitute the word "Scientologist" for "Communist" in any of the anti diatrabes in this thread including yours above and they look like Joe MaCarthy speeches.

But like i've said 3-4 times already, It's the Germans country, therefore a German decision.

In a way I even agree with you. But you have always to look too, who is the "victim". In this case of Scientology it is clearly the wolf, who claims to be the sheep hunted by wolves.

The best method against Scientology may be to lay open their sources. The roots of Scientology are clearly theosophic/occult, they paint themself as an "religion" but are a criminal totalitarian "business firm" who sells "spirituality". Their only true aim is money&power. If anyone thinks he can channel (brainwash) himself to an "Übermensch" , he can try so for his own in his own room and for free, searching the internet for the material. No need to pay even a single penny over the online-fee... The real problem with such people starts only, when they begin networking and try to inflitrate the public...

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes, a denial to work, legally, and meeting the laws as well as the constitution. I am sure it is exactly the same in you country, when the specified conditions are met.

Look you don't have to justify it to me Sky. If you want to take all your scientologists, line them up against the wall and shoot them that's your business.

[Smaragdadler]

That's just polemic August. 'Germany' may be overreacting when "this" topic comes up, but it's more because "we" have a special national expirience with "such" selfbacked 'brothers&sisters' (or better 'fraters&sorrors').
And yes, I know my conspiracy theory. Most of the big german politicans are freemasons as every where else. But that explains the (partly) overreaction in Germany, because 'they' have the expierience what happens, when some other guys take over the rudder...
So the problem is not that Germany always tends to be totalitarian. No, they just want to be everytime "worldmasters"...this time in total democracy.

[Skybird]

were the Italians and French also overreacting when they started criminal lawsuits against Scientology as I reported some postings above?

Originally Posted by Skybird

(...) charges of money laundering, tax fraud, a multitude of violations of economic laws, abuse of mentally deranged people, blackmailing, coercion, medical practicing without legal permission (Aprobation), violation of "Fürsorgepflicht", promoting child labour, torture, violation of laws regulating the working conditions of employees (employees were working until total physical exhaustion and complete breakdown)

I am sure this would be persecuted in America as well. Even if August thinks of such accusations as "denial to work" only. why so shy, august - there is nothing wrong in admitting that you have a police and an FBI, both doing their job if somebody would brake the laws, or violate the american constitution.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I am sure this would be persecuted in America as well.

Prosecuted.