magnetic?!

wetwarev7 · 06-26-07, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by switch.dota

Mag detonator works all right. Any torpedo properly set to detonate magnetically that passes less than a torpedo's diameter from any ship's keel will go boom.

However I've seen some torpedo tests that suggest visuals might not be extremely accurate, so indeed the mag exploder might not be workign at all.

Less than a torpedoe's diameter? That doesn't leave much room for mistakes does it?

kv29 · 06-26-07, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wetwarev7

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Originally Posted by switch.dota

Mag detonator works all right. Any torpedo properly set to detonate magnetically that passes less than a torpedo's diameter from any ship's keel will go boom.

However I've seen some torpedo tests that suggest visuals might not be extremely accurate, so indeed the mag exploder might not be workign at all.

Less than a torpedoe's diameter? That doesn't leave much room for mistakes does it?

a margin of 2 meters is not bad

wetwarev7 · 06-26-07, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kv29

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Originally Posted by wetwarev7

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Originally Posted by switch.dota

Mag detonator works all right. Any torpedo properly set to detonate magnetically that passes less than a torpedo's diameter from any ship's keel will go boom.

However I've seen some torpedo tests that suggest visuals might not be extremely accurate, so indeed the mag exploder might not be workign at all.

Less than a torpedoe's diameter? That doesn't leave much room for mistakes does it?

a margin of 2 meters is not bad

Torpedoes have a diameter of 2 meters?

That can't be right...:hmm:

kv29 · 06-26-07, 10:31 AM

uuupss, I meant a 2 meters radius would not be bad. What was the magnetic detection radius? In real life I mean.

Sailor Steve · 06-26-07, 10:39 AM

I'm not sure about the actual sensitivity radius, but that's one of the problems with any such device: if it's not sensitive enough you get non-detonations; if it's too sensitive you get way too many pre-dets.

WernerSobe · 06-26-07, 11:38 AM

just use contact detonators and forget the magnetic ones. They work sometimes but at most they dont. Even when they work they are not modeled correctly. They are not doing much more damage as they should. Ive been reading that real magnetic torpedoes are best set 5-7 meters below the keel and not just 2 or 3 feets.

SteamWake · 06-26-07, 01:55 PM

What confuses me is that I see two settings

1.) Contact

2.) Contact/Influence

I almost always use setting no 2 with good results. In other words I dont bother with changing it. If it impacts it detonates.

Ive even pulled off a couple of 'beneath the keel' detonations.

Im very confused about all this discussion.

nomad_delta · 06-26-07, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WernerSobe

just use contact detonators and forget the magnetic ones. They work sometimes but at most they dont. Even when they work they are not modeled correctly. They are not doing much more damage as they should. Ive been reading that real magnetic torpedoes are best set 5-7 meters below the keel and not just 2 or 3 feets.

The in-game testing I've done (someone linked my previous thread where I posted my testing results) indicates that magnetic detonators are not working at all. In my testing I systematically fired volleys of torpedos at a known target (Mogami Cruiser in the training mission) incrementing the depth setting downward 1 foot at a time to determine the maximum depth the torpedos would detonate.

I found that a volley of magnetic torpedos set to run just 1 foot below the depth at which a volley of contact torpedos scored 4/4 hits would consistently miss, every single time.

I'm planning on doing a lot more testing of all of this once patch 1.3 is out, but for now I think it's safe to say that the magnetic influence torpedos don't work as intended. I recommend using 'contact' settings and sparing yourself the premature detonations, since there's nothing to be gained by using magnetic at the moment.

nomad_delta

06-26-07, 10:31 AM	#4
kv29 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 342 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	uuupss, I meant a 2 meters radius would not be bad. What was the magnetic detection radius? In real life I mean. Last edited by kv29; 06-26-07 at 10:41 AM.

06-26-07, 10:39 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'm not sure about the actual sensitivity radius, but that's one of the problems with any such device: if it's not sensitive enough you get non-detonations; if it's too sensitive you get way too many pre-dets. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-26-07, 11:38 AM	#6
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	just use contact detonators and forget the magnetic ones. They work sometimes but at most they dont. Even when they work they are not modeled correctly. They are not doing much more damage as they should. Ive been reading that real magnetic torpedoes are best set 5-7 meters below the keel and not just 2 or 3 feets.

06-26-07, 01:55 PM	#7
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	What confuses me is that I see two settings 1.) Contact 2.) Contact/Influence I almost always use setting no 2 with good results. In other words I dont bother with changing it. If it impacts it detonates. Ive even pulled off a couple of 'beneath the keel' detonations. Im very confused about all this discussion.