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[Boris]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

True.

Yes, let's believe some woman's blog over a global news network with hundreds of highly proffessional reporters.

[joea]

Originally Posted by Boris

Yes, let's believe some woman's blog over a global news network with hundreds of highly proffessional reporters.

Ok.



Ahh no...:rotfl:

Always try to watch at least once a day or visit the website.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Boris

Yes, let's believe some woman's blog over a global news network with hundreds of highly proffessional reporters.

Melanie Phillips is a professional journalist, commentator and author.

Are you a professional analyst of journalism? :hmm:

[SUBMAN1]

What a bunch of crap! Biased polls conducted via cellphone only from a Biased news media! This just goes to show me that the BBC needs to pack up and bring its UK politics back home!

Here is how accurate and reliable the BBC is - they even admit it!:

BBC report finds bias within corporation - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...17/nbbc217.xml

BBC admits: We are biased on religion and politics
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...318582,00.html

Here is even one from yesterday:
BBC report damns its ‘culture of bias’ - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1942948.ece


We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770


http://bustingbbcbias.blogspot.com/

http://biasedbbc.proboards45.com/index.cgi

http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/

Need I go on?

This bastards need to get out of AMerica. We don't want them here

[Tchocky]

I wonder how many US news outlets comission investigations into their activities, looking for flaws or bias.

How are the polls biased, SUBMAN?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I wonder how many US news outlets comission investigations into their activities, looking for flaws or bias.

How are the polls biased, SUBMAN?

I'd consider any poll based on 'cell phone only' and charges per text message flawed. It is definitely not even close to a scietific poll that is random, unbiased, has a margin of error that can be calculated.

-S

[Tchocky]

OK, so it may be flawed.

But a bias implies directed results.

How are they biased, just going on what we see here?

Here is how accurate and reliable the BBC is - they even admit it!

Well, they ordered the report and released it to the press, that's fairly accurate and reliable for something so critical.

See my news transparency thread, BBC comes in 3rd for accountability and transparency, things like this report.

[Takeda Shingen]

I'm pretty sure that those polls are presented as nothing more than a clever advertising campaign, and are not going to be cited on The McLaughlin Group or Meet the Press. Let's not make too much out of this.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

OK, so it may be flawed.

But a bias implies directed results.

How are they biased, just going on what we see here?

Simple - you target your select group that you think will give you the proper results. This is even easier in America where most conservatives do not even answer polls like this unless asked via a random phone call.

Well, they ordered the report and released it to the press, that's fairly accurate and reliable for something so critical.

If you have been following the story, it was not voluntary about a year ago, where this news broke.

See my news transparency thread, BBC comes in 3rd for accountability and transparency, things like this report.

They are actually among what the normal world would consider the worst offenders. They have even amitted as much. Not sure where you went on that thread because I didn't read it, but they are definitely profit motivated for #1 (hype and oversensationalizing things is how they sell), and they are Politically motivated #2, and they are Religiously motivated #3. This is very very very far from tranparency - espeically with what they have tried to hide, and ruins their accontability as well.

I think the kitchen knife deal was about the clincher for me when they suggested banning all kitchen knifes because they could be used for violence in the street. A police officer had to clue them in that carrying a knife around that large was already illegal! :rotfl:But they still wanted them banned anyway!!!:rotfl:They have got to be the worst news organiation on the planet!

-S

[XabbaRus]

Quite clever. subman what is your problem? All news organisations are biased one way or another. That's why I try to get info from several outlets and compare.

On the whole BBC reporting is pretty good. They do a few things that annoy me but generally I'm happy with them. You think Fox aren't biased?

Funny how it seems they're biased but hey when they report about Russia and how mean she is it's OK.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Quite clever. subman what is your problem? All news organisations are biased one way or another. That's why I try to get info from several outlets and compare.

On the whole BBC reporting is pretty good. They do a few things that annoy me but generally I'm happy with them. You think Fox aren't biased?

Funny how it seems they're biased but hey when they report about Russia and how mean she is it's OK.

Problem? What is that supposed to mean because I take a bit of offense to it? Fox was also not brought up. CNN was. Besides, Russia may be doing well, but probably what ticks Fox off (I don't know because I haven't seen anything from them in over a year) is that Russia still has the cold war on, yet everyone is turning a blind eye.

If there is a problem on BBC or other news outlets, I'm dying to find a news outlet that reports news for what it is, presents 2 sides to the story equally (the way it should be done) and lets me make up my mind. Frequently what I see coming out of the BBC is anti UK, Pro foreign terorists, and pro PC'ness. This is not what I or anyone else I know would want in the US. Is that a problem?

-S

[XabbaRus]

I think the kitchen knife deal was about the clincher for me when they suggested banning all kitchen knifes because they could be used for violence in the street. A police officer had to clue them in that carrying a knife around that large was already illegal! :rotfl:But they still wanted them banned anyway!!!:rotfl:They have got to be the worst news organiation on the planet!

I seem to remember they were reporting on some people wanting kitchen knives banned not calling for them to be banned. Then they ran one of their have your say things, which isn't the same as calling for kitchen knives to be banned.

Is this the article? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4581871.stm or this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4817974.stm

Can't see the BBC calling for a ban here.

Also How can the BBC be profit oriented? It is paid for by a license fee. We all pay £130 pounds a year and this is used to fund it. The BBC doesn't have advertising in its programs. It doesn't get revenue from advertisers based on how many viewers they pull in. Yes they can and do sell production services and programmes but that isn't the same thing.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

I seem to remember they were reporting on some people wanting kitchen knives banned not calling for them to be banned. Then they ran one of their have your say things, which isn't the same as calling for kitchen knives to be banned.

Is this the article? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4581871.stm or this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4817974.stm

Can't see the BBC calling for a ban here.

Its in the reporting and choice of reporting. That is the kind of crap you are wasting your $$$ on for them to report. That wouldn't even get on the back side of a Times paper over here! Point proven - thank you.

Here is a classic given its own paragraph:

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.
They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

Also How can the BBC be profit oriented? It is paid for by a license fee. We all pay £130 pounds a year and this is used to fund it. The BBC doesn't have advertising in its programs. It doesn't get revenue from advertisers based on how many viewers they pull in. Yes they can and do sell production services and programmes but that isn't the same thing.

Read above - that is what I asked.

[DAB]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Melanie Phillips is a professional journalist, commentator and author.

Are you a professional analyst of journalism? :hmm:

Actually, shes generally considered discredited these days.

Shes denounced far too many people for apparent misdemeaners, only to retract when faced with legal action, to be taken seriously. Her main problem seems to be a tendency to take a blog entry, email or even word of mouth as proof positive and run with it.

Didn't someone once call her Britains answer to Ann Coultar?

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by DAB

Actually, shes generally considered discredited these days.

:rotfl:

Shes denounced far too many people for apparent misdemeaners, only to retract when faced with legal action, to be taken seriously.

Can you document this?

Her main problem seems to be a tendency to take a blog entry, email or even word of mouth as proof positive and run with it.

Can you document this?

Didn't someone once call her Britains answer to Ann Coultar?

The closest correlation I could find documented between the 2 is on this page of the Muslim Public Affairs Commitee - MPACUK. Thanks for the tip.