What do yall think the best type of gov would we.

[Reaves]

Originally Posted by Camaero

“Democracy forever teases us with the contrast between its ideals and its realities, between its heroic possibilities and its sorry achievements.”
- Agnes Repplier

It's good because it is true.

I was orginally looking for a quote that I think Thomas Jefferson said. It was something like

"Democracy is a failed form of government, but it is better than the alternatives."

[Camaero]

Are you thinking of ol Winston who said something close to: "Democracy is the worst form of government, but it is better than all the others." I know that isn't quoted exactly...

[Reaves]

That's the one. So it was old Winnie then.

[Iceman]

One that rules with wisdom...

Proverbs 8
[1] Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
[2] She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
[3] She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
[4] Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
[5] O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
[6] Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
[7] For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
[8] All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
[9] They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
[10] Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
[11] For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
[12] I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
[13] The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
[14] Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
[15] By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
[16] By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
[17] I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
[18] Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
[19] My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
[20] I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
[21] That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
[22] The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
[23] I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
[24] When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
[25] Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
[26] While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
[27] When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
[28] When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
[29] When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
[30] Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
[31] Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
[32] Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
[33] Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
[34] Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
[35] For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
[36] But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

[Lagger123987]

none

[CCIP]

Well, I guess as a self-confessed socialist this one is kinda obvious for me.

I will take either a pragmatic socialist path (leaning slightly towards libertarian socialism). I would have said liberal democracy not too long ago, but I've been increasingly disappointed with where it's going. I would take it as a temporary solution for now, but I think it'll eat itself eventually thanks to the economic model that sits on top of it. I would also name both enlightened despotism and communism, but those are reliant on an ideal-world scenario which by default can't be relied on, so they're right out.

[TteFAboB]

Genocidal totalitarian.

Originally Posted by Lagger123987

none

Ditto.

Republic with suffrage limited to the citizens aged 55, not one year more or less.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Well, I guess as a self-confessed socialist this one is kinda obvious for me.

I will take either a pragmatic socialist path (leaning slightly towards libertarian socialism). I would have said liberal democracy not too long ago, but I've been increasingly disappointed with where it's going. I would take it as a temporary solution for now, but I think it'll eat itself eventually thanks to the economic model that sits on top of it. I would also name both enlightened despotism and communism, but those are reliant on an ideal-world scenario which by default can't be relied on, so they're right out.

"The vice of capitalism is that it stands for the unequal sharing of blessings; whereas the virtue of socialism is that it stands for the equal sharing of misery."
- Winston Churchill

[geetrue]

Tribal authority should only come from the chief ... if he needs any extra helping hands he should be able to chose from the strong able bodied men counted as trust worthy among their own kindred.

Everyone's rice bowl must have a little piece of chicken or pork to satisfy the pallet'. All women are to remain topless till after their third child. Please dig a hole and cover up all waste material, so as not to offend the chief when walking among the camp fires.

When the chief dies, two men will be chosen to arrange for the entire tribe to join the chief in his cermonial burial grounds horse drawn cart. Burial to include all wives, children, followers, animals, gold and precious gem stones.

That really happened by the way .... I think it was 500 BC in the land that now resembles Germany or was it Romania?

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

"The vice of capitalism is that it stands for the unequal sharing of blessings; whereas the virtue of socialism is that it stands for the equal sharing of misery."
- Winston Churchill

Somehow that actually appeals to me? :hmm:

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Somehow that actually appeals to me? :hmm:

I know exaclty what you mean.

I'll take the Russian point of view. Life is sh1t and then we die. Every day is an opportunity to experience misery in a differnet way. So why jerk off for the rest of your life hiding from inevitability? :rotfl:

And AL, I don't think that its very fair to supplya quote in place of an actual argument. Which one is that? The appeal to authority? I have to be careful how often I use these fallacy terms. waste gate might actually accuse me of making a similar observation about a recurring theme amongst the same people too frequently.

[cobalt]

capitalism - cap·i·tal·ism

n. Buy the most expensive **** that you can, and then die.

[Konovalov]

Secular democracy based on the Westminster System as is the case at home in Australia.

[Skybird]

Reason. - Without it, none of the above can produce any good that lasts beyond the moment.

[Happy Times]

The Soviet Collapse
Grain and Oil

http://www.aei.org/publications/pubI...pub_detail.asp

Big bubble..