Boat stuck the middle of the sea...

DirtyHarry3033 · 06-12-07, 09:20 PM

I've had that happen a number of times without ever having sent crew to battle stations beforehand.

Any time you see that "Cannot comply" msg, you can rest assured that your on-duty watch crew is 100% fatigued for whatever reason. If you have crew at battle stations for a few watches, it will happen. But like I said, it can happen even if you never order battle stations.

One thing I think is weather, if you run surfaced in storms or heavy seas for a day I have found that the crew does not recover fatigue as well when off-duty. All that pitching & rolling I guess, they're spending their time with the sea-sick bags instead of sleeping!

On at least 3 or 4 occasions, I've seen all 3 shifts of my crew at or near 100% fatigue, and all 3 shifts with the "Zzzzz's" indicating they're asleep, and nothing but "Cannot comply" when I give an order. And "Battle stations" was not in effect as I almost never order it. But I was running surfaced in nasty weather.

Next time that happens, check your crew screen - you'll see the green bar on your watch shift (and possibly all 3 shifts) is empty and odds are most (if not all) of your crew is asleep. The solution is, submerge and wait. 12 hours at least, 24 if you can. Crew always seems to rest better when submerged. Once things are back to normal, be sure to spend at least a few hours of every 24 submerged, particularly if the weather is unpleasant.

DH

-Pv- · 06-12-07, 11:35 PM

3013 comes the closest to detailing hits to fatigue when not using Battle Stations. In testing P1.2 the closest guide I've been able to measure is wind speeds of 8 knots or more causes extreme crew fatigue AFTER RESTORING A SAVE. As a result of what I've learned, I always save while submerged after poor weather, AND the 1st screen I look at after restoring is the Crew Management to see if I need to cycle crew shifts or put compartments to sleep to prevent the active crew from being too tired.
-Pv-

FAdmiral · 06-12-07, 11:55 PM

Saving the game near a crew rotation will sometimes make the watch on duty
almost 100% fatigued. Keep a close eye on watch crew fatigue. I have had
this happen before, mostly after a save...

JIM

06-12-07, 11:55 PM	#3
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Saving the game near a crew rotation will sometimes make the watch on duty almost 100% fatigued. Keep a close eye on watch crew fatigue. I have had this happen before, mostly after a save... JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

06-12-07, 09:20 PM	#1
DirtyHarry3033 Weps Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've had that happen a number of times without ever having sent crew to battle stations beforehand. Any time you see that "Cannot comply" msg, you can rest assured that your on-duty watch crew is 100% fatigued for whatever reason. If you have crew at battle stations for a few watches, it will happen. But like I said, it can happen even if you never order battle stations. One thing I think is weather, if you run surfaced in storms or heavy seas for a day I have found that the crew does not recover fatigue as well when off-duty. All that pitching & rolling I guess, they're spending their time with the sea-sick bags instead of sleeping! On at least 3 or 4 occasions, I've seen all 3 shifts of my crew at or near 100% fatigue, and all 3 shifts with the "Zzzzz's" indicating they're asleep, and nothing but "Cannot comply" when I give an order. And "Battle stations" was not in effect as I almost never order it. But I was running surfaced in nasty weather. Next time that happens, check your crew screen - you'll see the green bar on your watch shift (and possibly all 3 shifts) is empty and odds are most (if not all) of your crew is asleep. The solution is, submerge and wait. 12 hours at least, 24 if you can. Crew always seems to rest better when submerged. Once things are back to normal, be sure to spend at least a few hours of every 24 submerged, particularly if the weather is unpleasant. DH

06-12-07, 11:35 PM	#2
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	3013 comes the closest to detailing hits to fatigue when not using Battle Stations. In testing P1.2 the closest guide I've been able to measure is wind speeds of 8 knots or more causes extreme crew fatigue AFTER RESTORING A SAVE. As a result of what I've learned, I always save while submerged after poor weather, AND the 1st screen I look at after restoring is the Crew Management to see if I need to cycle crew shifts or put compartments to sleep to prevent the active crew from being too tired. -Pv-