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Old 06-12-07, 04:23 PM   #1
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I totally agree 100% with you, Kapitan! Nothing beats the experience, but I assume US NAVY has sub commanders of age at least 35, no?:hmm:
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Old 06-12-07, 04:28 PM   #2
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According to what im told by a RN officer once he stated we have commanders of the age of 28 in command of warships and submarines, now average age is around 35 -38 but he was on about the really young ones.
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Old 06-12-07, 05:48 PM   #3
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In WW2 some of the RN submarine commanders were in their early twenties.Thirty eight was considerd retirement age.
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Old 06-12-07, 05:50 PM   #4
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In WW2 some of the RN submarine commanders were in their early twenties.Thirty eight was considerd retirement age.
On that point, in the Kriegsmarine during early war the bottom limit was 25, but by late war it was taken out and the youngest U-boat commander was just 20.
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Old 06-12-07, 08:14 PM   #5
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It is almost impossible to give out a proper order based on incoplete and unverified information that is given at the moment...
LOL, this was a constant theme during our war games. You just have to evaluate the situation, make a plan, go through with it 100%. Then you see how it went and evaluate the situation again. Its funny how some people freeze. One Second Lieutenant that had top points couldnt cut it outside the classroom. We didnt see him in any of the refresher training we have had.
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Old 06-13-07, 03:44 AM   #6
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It is almost impossible to give out a proper order based on incoplete and unverified information that is given at the moment...
LOL, this was a constant theme during our war games. You just have to evaluate the situation, make a plan, go through with it 100%. Then you see how it went and evaluate the situation again. Its funny how some people freeze. One Second Lieutenant that had top points couldnt cut it outside the classroom. We didnt see him in any of the refresher training we have had.
Maybe because he was learning "by-the-book" and not improvised?:hmm:
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It is almost impossible to give out a proper order based on incoplete and unverified information that is given at the moment...
LOL, this was a constant theme during our war games. You just have to evaluate the situation, make a plan, go through with it 100%. Then you see how it went and evaluate the situation again. Its funny how some people freeze. One Second Lieutenant that had top points couldnt cut it outside the classroom. We didnt see him in any of the refresher training we have had.
Maybe because he was learning "by-the-book" and not improvised?:hmm:
Thats true, he was suppose to be a team leader but usually the NCOs had to take over at some point. He was cautious in the wrong place and reckless in a nother.
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Old 06-13-07, 08:34 AM   #8
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At the end of the day your the captain the navy has given you a $1 billion dollar toy to go play with

Exactly. What smash one and ask for another. I do not think so. It is a great responsiblity and they are put there because the powers that be believe he as a captain can handle the great responsibility.

I recommend the captain surrounds himself with damn good people!
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I think it's got a lot to do with attention to detail and situational awareness. If he can make a mistake that grounds his ship, what mistakes can he make when under combat stress. It's strictly the commanders responsibility by virtue of rank and position that his people are properly trained. If there is a screw-up it's on him.
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Old 06-13-07, 09:51 AM   #10
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In WW2 some of the RN submarine commanders were in their early twenties.Thirty eight was considerd retirement age.
In WW2 Submarines were a lot smaller and less powerful than they are today. A 24 year old is not someone I would want with his finger on the trigger of enough nuclear weapons to wipe out half the earth.
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In WW2 some of the RN submarine commanders were in their early twenties.Thirty eight was considerd retirement age.
In WW2 Submarines were a lot smaller and less powerful than they are today. A 24 year old is not someone I would want with his finger on the trigger of enough nuclear weapons to wipe out half the earth.
And not with some paranoid grandpa either.
I once read that the British sub commanders have this piece of paper that, if they lost any communication with the command or someone nukes UK and everyone is dead, they have a preset targets ready to drop their cargo at. Let's assume they have Italy for example, and Italy didn't do that, how they will prove that to the commander of a UK sub that they are shooting in the wrong place?:hmm:
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In WW2 some of the RN submarine commanders were in their early twenties.Thirty eight was considerd retirement age.
In WW2 Submarines were a lot smaller and less powerful than they are today. A 24 year old is not someone I would want with his finger on the trigger of enough nuclear weapons to wipe out half the earth.
SSN's don't carry nuclear cargo 'cept reactor, right?:hmm:
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In WW2 some of the RN submarine commanders were in their early twenties.Thirty eight was considerd retirement age.
In WW2 Submarines were a lot smaller and less powerful than they are today. A 24 year old is not someone I would want with his finger on the trigger of enough nuclear weapons to wipe out half the earth.
SSN's don't carry nuclear cargo 'cept reactor, right?:hmm:
Wouldnt bet on that.
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HOW COME???!!!!!!
SSN is a fast attack nuclear boat, like LA, and SSBN is the one carying nukes.
Right? Or left?
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