SOS-rule club

ichso · 06-12-07, 09:42 AM

Hehe, me in. I'm too lazy to wait for bigger ships come along anyway

And I'm even not into those ~1Million BRT patrols. At my current one (Oct '40) I've already got ~29000BRTs ans 3 Torpedoes left. This is more realistic due to Torpedo failures, wrong shots because of bad weather conditions, ...

Every encounter becomes a possible target and as soon as I can identify it's nationality, I choose whether to attack or not

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Playing on 91% realism, because sometimes I just like to watch my boat cruising alone from the external view.

SH3 1.4b, GWX 1.03

Penelope_Grey · 06-12-07, 10:33 AM

I sink anything that floats as long as its enemy, even sloops!

Sailor Steve · 06-12-07, 11:00 AM

Sloops aren't tonnage. I agree, though: the only time a small target of opportunity should be left alone is if a convoy has been reported and you are rushing to get to it. Even then, it's debatable.

Heibges · 06-12-07, 12:33 PM

I agree, as The Bible says:

B. Preparing for the Underwater Attack.

105)

c. Never delude yourself by assuming that it is right not to attack on the instant, or not to hold onto the enemy with the utmost determination, because there may be reason to hope and believe that a better target will subsequently be found elsewhere. What you have got, you have got. Do not let such considerations give you the idea of trying to save fuel.

Avatar · 06-12-07, 12:37 PM

I'm definately SOS.
Penelope, I too sink everything including sloops and fishing boats and motor boats. You never know. A high ranking official may be taking his family out on a little vacation and that's when they come across U-53. BAM!

Oh, but wait, if there is a convoy and there is bigger game, I ignore the smaller merchies.

Sailor Steve · 06-12-07, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatar

I'm definately SOS.
Penelope, I too sink everything including sloops and fishing boats and motor boats. You never know. A high ranking official may be taking his family out on a little vacation and that's when they come across U-53. BAM!

Oh, but wait, if there is a convoy and there is bigger game, I ignore the smaller merchies.

Oh, did she mean FISHING or SAILING sloops??? I was thinking Black Swan type sloops. Of course the sailing kind are fair game; that's what the deck gun was invented for.

06-12-07, 04:28 PM

I only sink a sloop If I think It has seen me and may give my position away, But any merchant from a tramp steamer up is fair game. DD I will only attack if I either have to or it is stupid enouth to sail in a streightline at short range....they are asking for it

I have only encouted one BB, I was out of fish

Henri II · 06-12-07, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heibges

I agree, as The Bible says:

B. Preparing for the Underwater Attack.

105)

c. Never delude yourself by assuming that it is right not to attack on the instant, or not to hold onto the enemy with the utmost determination, because there may be reason to hope and believe that a better target will subsequently be found elsewhere. What you have got, you have got. Do not let such considerations give you the idea of trying to save fuel.

Don't know what bible this is, but that's exactly my way of thinking. The only time I don't bother is with very small ships like yachts and fishing boats in heavy weather, when I can't use the deck gun. Somehow I don't think they are worth a 40000 RM torpedo, especially since the chances for a hit are not that great in heavy weather.

joegrundman · 06-12-07, 07:11 PM

The bible is the translated 1943 U-boat commanders handbook, available here

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/uboat/index.htm

KeptinCranky · 06-12-07, 07:55 PM

There is one more thing to consider, It doesn't pay to attack small targets when enemy warships are within response range, Planes don't matter, that's what flak is for, but just as an example:

I was in AM36 tonight, spotted a large fishing trawler, that's 500 tons so definitely not torpedo material It was beautiful deckgun weather totally clear, moonless night and flat calm. so I decide to go to periscope depth because it's coming straight for me anyway, wait for it to be real close and then pop the boat up to the surface right next to them and open fire, just to scare them a bit more

But when I'm at PD I get a sonar report of 2 warships closing fast so I decide to go silent and see if those are interceptable. they were not, 2 Didos going 25 knots and looking to pass me about 7km out.

Now Imagine what would have happened if I didn't listen first, I'd be happily shelling a stupid 500 ton trawler and WHAM there's 2 Didos barreling down on me all guns blazing......

I'd be one very sunk uboat.

so yes SOS is good but you gotta stay cautious, and I'd say don't go for every radio contact until you've reached your patrol area, it just wastes fuel. only go for the ones that are not too far out of the way and you have a reasonable chance of catching
Unless of course it's a convoy, always intercept convoys

06-12-07, 10:33 AM	#2
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I sink anything that floats as long as its enemy, even sloops! __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

06-12-07, 11:00 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Sloops aren't tonnage. I agree, though: the only time a small target of opportunity should be left alone is if a convoy has been reported and you are rushing to get to it. Even then, it's debatable. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-12-07, 12:33 PM	#4
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I agree, as The Bible says: B. Preparing for the Underwater Attack. 105) c. Never delude yourself by assuming that it is right not to attack on the instant, or not to hold onto the enemy with the utmost determination, because there may be reason to hope and believe that a better target will subsequently be found elsewhere. What you have got, you have got. Do not let such considerations give you the idea of trying to save fuel. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

06-12-07, 07:11 PM	#9
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	The bible is the translated 1943 U-boat commanders handbook, available here http://www.hnsa.org/doc/uboat/index.htm __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

06-12-07, 09:42 AM	#1
ichso Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Germany's oldest city alive Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Hehe, me in. I'm too lazy to wait for bigger ships come along anyway And I'm even not into those ~1Million BRT patrols. At my current one (Oct '40) I've already got ~29000BRTs ans 3 Torpedoes left. This is more realistic due to Torpedo failures, wrong shots because of bad weather conditions, ... Every encounter becomes a possible target and as soon as I can identify it's nationality, I choose whether to attack or not . Playing on 91% realism, because sometimes I just like to watch my boat cruising alone from the external view. SH3 1.4b, GWX 1.03

06-12-07, 12:37 PM	#5
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I'm definately SOS. Penelope, I too sink everything including sloops and fishing boats and motor boats. You never know. A high ranking official may be taking his family out on a little vacation and that's when they come across U-53. BAM! Oh, but wait, if there is a convoy and there is bigger game, I ignore the smaller merchies.

06-12-07, 04:28 PM	#7
hobnailboot Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I only sink a sloop If I think It has seen me and may give my position away, But any merchant from a tramp steamer up is fair game. DD I will only attack if I either have to or it is stupid enouth to sail in a streightline at short range....they are asking for it I have only encouted one BB, I was out of fish

06-12-07, 07:55 PM	#10
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	There is one more thing to consider, It doesn't pay to attack small targets when enemy warships are within response range, Planes don't matter, that's what flak is for, but just as an example: I was in AM36 tonight, spotted a large fishing trawler, that's 500 tons so definitely not torpedo material It was beautiful deckgun weather totally clear, moonless night and flat calm. so I decide to go to periscope depth because it's coming straight for me anyway, wait for it to be real close and then pop the boat up to the surface right next to them and open fire, just to scare them a bit more But when I'm at PD I get a sonar report of 2 warships closing fast so I decide to go silent and see if those are interceptable. they were not, 2 Didos going 25 knots and looking to pass me about 7km out. Now Imagine what would have happened if I didn't listen first, I'd be happily shelling a stupid 500 ton trawler and WHAM there's 2 Didos barreling down on me all guns blazing...... I'd be one very sunk uboat. so yes SOS is good but you gotta stay cautious, and I'd say don't go for every radio contact until you've reached your patrol area, it just wastes fuel. only go for the ones that are not too far out of the way and you have a reasonable chance of catching Unless of course it's a convoy, always intercept convoys