U-864: Hitler's Last Deadly Secret

[Corsair]

I already saw it a few weeks ago on "Planète" in France, very interesting and well made. Anybody from Norway knowing what is going on with the quicksilver pollution problem ?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by IrischKapitan

You couldnt call the British V Class advanced by 1945 standards, in fant it was more the equivelent of an 1940 type VII B Boat, it only carried 4 bow tubes no stern tubes, could only dive to 300Ft, carried no scnorkel, 8knts max underwater for 30nm. It had good manoeuvrability though.

It paled in comparrasion to the IXD2, The german sub was over 1000 tonnes bigger, Carried the latest radar and sonar and had a shnorkel.

The British sub was lucky to sink the german one, with only a vauge idea of his enemys course, he fired a spread of four fish, the fourth hit........
Very lucky.

Fair play to him though....

The subtle difference in this encounter was twofold......the inferior (in your opinion) British sub was better maintained and not making as much noise as her counterpart...and secondly, the British captain was more experienced and astute

[Lagger123987]

Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

i had sub v sub battle... but with the DG in GWX

and after a heroic fight they lost and survivors were picked up by the kriegsmarine

What's DG? Depth Gun? a new type of DCs?

[joea]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

The subtle difference in this encounter was twofold......the inferior (in your opinion) British sub was better maintained and not making as much noise as her counterpart...and secondly, the British captain was more experienced and astute

Yup, plus the British captain tracked the U-864 by marking sightings of the other's scope (the less experienced German had poor scope discipline) and making an educated, not a blind guess.

Great show btw!!!

[WilhelmSchulz.]

Yea I saw that on TV. It was verry good.

[bigboywooly]

Also helped that U 864s engine was making a right racket and was on his way back to Bergen for repair
Again
He grounded the boat in the Kiel canal and detoured to Bergen first to have it fixed already
Obviously not done properly

IIRC the Br sub waited 45 mins from first sighting to firing the torps - 17 sec intervals - hoping the Ge sub would surface

And again IIRC the Venturer only had 4 fish onboard
As opposed to U 864s 22

[tenakha]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

And again IIRC the Venturer only had 4 fish onboard
As opposed to U 864s 22

In this kind of fight only the fish loaded in your tubes are important

[Lagger123987]

Originally Posted by tenakha

In this kind of fight only the fish loaded in your tubes are important

FUNNY, IM USIN U-864 NOW IN GWX.

[Jimbuna]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....I reckon we can rap this one up as a victory to a less technologically advanced boat aided and abetted by a better disciplined captain :hmm:

[tenakha]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....I reckon we can rap this one up as a victory to a less technologically advanced boat aided and abetted by a better experienced captain :hmm:

corrected :p

[STEED]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....I reckon we can rap this one up as a victory to a less technologically advanced boat aided and abetted by a better disciplined captain :hmm:

And another case rapped up by jimbuna, next week did the Third Reich have UFO technology. Jimbuna will give his verdict after having a chat with a man in a car park some where in America. :p

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

And another case rapped up by jimbuna, next week did the Third Reich have UFO technology. Jimbuna will give his verdict after having a chat with a man in a car park some where in America. :p

Who leaked next weeks agenda papers? :hmm:

[IrischKapitan]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

The subtle difference in this encounter was twofold......the inferior (in your opinion) British sub was better maintained and not making as much noise as her counterpart...and secondly, the British captain was more experienced and astute

jimbuana you are dead right about what you said but if both of the sub skippers were experienced, i think the outcome would have being different................

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by IrischKapitan

jimbuana you are dead right about what you said but if both of the sub skippers were experienced, i think the outcome would have being different................

We will probably never know But I think we should both also bear in mind the fact that the British sub was in it's intended element (coastal waters) and the German sub was more akin to a whale in a swimming pool

[STEED]

U-864 had no hope in making it to it's destination as the Allies wanted it sunk at all cost. And if by some miracle U-864 made it with her jet engine parts, Japan would still loose the war.