[TEC] The Props Spin in the wrong Direction - Page 7

CaptainCox · 05-31-07, 12:28 PM

Absolutely clear now Beery, cheers!. Well I am back in front of the ol digital box here after a days work so I will look in to this some more, crap...and double crap, must, be a way...must be.

VonBlade · 05-31-07, 01:07 PM

Lmfao. I thought I understood it until Beerys clarification has confused me.

So the props spin the wrong way, but are aligned the right way, but push water the wrong way. Or something.

Glad you two are professionals, I'd have got lost at "the problem is"

VB

CaptainCox · 05-31-07, 01:14 PM

OK, I need 1-2 testers. I think I have it but need someone that can verify it. You need to know how to use the minitweaker!
PM or post here!

CaptainCox · 05-31-07, 01:37 PM

No one? Bump!

CaptainCox · 05-31-07, 01:51 PM

Ok, as there seem to be no volunteers i will take this enigma with me to the grave...AND NO ONE WILL NEVER EVER FIND THE TRUTH!

Naaa. Its very simple...well sort a...na, it is simple.

In this tweakfile I added a new function called (Propellers/ Screws"ENGINE RPM")
Simply put in the "Minus Value" to whats in there now.
Example:
IS "128" (Screws rotate wrong direction)
CHANGE TO "-128" (Screws....ROTATE THE RIGHT DIRECTION! WOOPIE!!"

I only provided the GATO for now...for testing purposes.

DOWNLOAD HERE:
http://files.filefront.com/NSS_Gato_simrar/;7657730;/fileinfo.html

Canonicus · 05-31-07, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

No one? Bump!

I'd be glad to help you Captain.....if it's still needed

(going to test...right now.)

CaptainCox · 05-31-07, 01:55 PM

Well DL that file and do the tweak and tell me if the screws rotate "LEFT Anti clock wise" and "RIGHT Clock wise"

They should, or I eat my US NAVY OFFICER HAT!
But only the GATO, remember!

Cheers man!

Canonicus · 05-31-07, 02:15 PM

Captain....propeller rotation test completed....

Propellers do indeed rotate in the correct direction...however...
I get no forward movement...none.

She just sits there....

CaptainCox · 05-31-07, 02:18 PM

HAHAHA OK! I will doubble check :p

CaptainCox · 05-31-07, 02:22 PM

Yup, full speed but she just sits there. DAM, I have to eat that hat now

Cheers man...I think...I think I will look some more in that file and...well, we will see.

Cheers!

leovampire · 05-31-07, 02:26 PM

Has anyone looked at the animation end of this in Library?

The other thing to consider in setting the way the props turn is the angle the blades are set to grab at the water.

"A right-handed propeller (which rotates clockwise when in forward gear)"

Okay I actualy talked to and got John Hopkins University's Physics Department to check on this for us all. Talked to them on the phone and they told me to send them an e-mail to their department and I will have a reply in a day or 2 or so I was told. We will know the actual rotation of the screws/Propellers on the subs.

Canonicus · 05-31-07, 02:27 PM

I believe...I believe.... Just gota believe!..... your getting VERY close to the solution, CC

CaptainCox · 05-31-07, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leovampire

Has anyone looked at the animation end of this in Library?

The other thing to consider in setting the way the props turn is the angle the blades are set to grab at the water.

You mean the .sim file or?...animation hey...have to look!

Canonicus · 05-31-07, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

Quote:

Originally Posted by leovampire

Has anyone looked at the animation end of this in Library?

The other thing to consider in setting the way the props turn is the angle the blades are set to grab at the water.

You mean the .sim file or?...animation hey...have to look!

I don't know if this means anything, but I've been using Anvarts prop mod that orientates the blades for the wrong rotation direction....

Maybe going back to the stock blades may do something. :hmm:

GSpector · 05-31-07, 02:41 PM

Looks to me like you guys might be on the right direction to fixing this problem.

As I stated before, there has to be a way to separate the forward / reverse speed from the prop rotation. When you guys can do that, you can get the sub to move forward/reverse without prop rotation or have prop rotation in either direction without sub movement.

Once you can control each independently, you can set each to work the correct way.

05-31-07, 12:28 PM	#91
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Absolutely clear now Beery, cheers!. Well I am back in front of the ol digital box here after a days work so I will look in to this some more, crap...and double crap, must, be a way...must be. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-31-07, 01:07 PM	#92
VonBlade Mate Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Inside my head Posts: 51 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Lmfao. I thought I understood it until Beerys clarification has confused me. So the props spin the wrong way, but are aligned the right way, but push water the wrong way. Or something. Glad you two are professionals, I'd have got lost at "the problem is" VB __________________

05-31-07, 01:14 PM	#93
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Tester Needed! Now!!!!! OK, I need 1-2 testers. I think I have it but need someone that can verify it. You need to know how to use the minitweaker! PM or post here! __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-31-07, 01:37 PM	#94
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No one? Bump! __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-31-07, 01:51 PM	#95
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ok, as there seem to be no volunteers i will take this enigma with me to the grave...AND NO ONE WILL NEVER EVER FIND THE TRUTH! Naaa. Its very simple...well sort a...na, it is simple. In this tweakfile I added a new function called (Propellers/ Screws"ENGINE RPM") Simply put in the "Minus Value" to whats in there now. Example: IS "128" (Screws rotate wrong direction) CHANGE TO "-128" (Screws....ROTATE THE RIGHT DIRECTION! WOOPIE!!" I only provided the GATO for now...for testing purposes. DOWNLOAD HERE: http://files.filefront.com/NSS_Gato_simrar/;7657730;/fileinfo.html __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-31-07, 01:55 PM	#97
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Well DL that file and do the tweak and tell me if the screws rotate "LEFT Anti clock wise" and "RIGHT Clock wise" They should, or I eat my US NAVY OFFICER HAT! But only the GATO, remember! Cheers man! __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-31-07, 02:15 PM	#98
Canonicus XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your baffles... Posts: 434 Downloads: 624 Uploads: 7	Captain....propeller rotation test completed.... Propellers do indeed rotate in the correct direction...however... I get no forward movement...none. She just sits there....

05-31-07, 02:18 PM	#99
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	HAHAHA OK! I will doubble check :p __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-31-07, 02:22 PM	#100
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Yup, full speed but she just sits there. DAM, I have to eat that hat now Cheers man...I think...I think I will look some more in that file and...well, we will see. Cheers! __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-31-07, 02:26 PM	#101
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	just a question Has anyone looked at the animation end of this in Library? The other thing to consider in setting the way the props turn is the angle the blades are set to grab at the water. "A right-handed propeller (which rotates clockwise when in forward gear)" Okay I actualy talked to and got John Hopkins University's Physics Department to check on this for us all. Talked to them on the phone and they told me to send them an e-mail to their department and I will have a reply in a day or 2 or so I was told. We will know the actual rotation of the screws/Propellers on the subs. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water Last edited by leovampire; 05-31-07 at 04:14 PM.

05-31-07, 02:27 PM	#102
Canonicus XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your baffles... Posts: 434 Downloads: 624 Uploads: 7	I believe...I believe.... Just gota believe!..... your getting VERY close to the solution, CC

05-31-07, 02:41 PM	#105
GSpector Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Looks to me like you guys might be on the right direction to fixing this problem. As I stated before, there has to be a way to separate the forward / reverse speed from the prop rotation. When you guys can do that, you can get the sub to move forward/reverse without prop rotation or have prop rotation in either direction without sub movement. Once you can control each independently, you can set each to work the correct way. __________________ Specter