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Old 05-21-07, 04:25 PM   #1
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Sunrise and sunset has been discussed ad-infinitum even before SH4 came out.
Do a search and you'll see.
It's prob not going to happen. I just make a note of the times I visually see them happen and plan my submerges and surfaces to be about an hour before/after.
No big deal.
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Old 05-21-07, 04:52 PM   #2
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I have been to japan before, and in fact, i live in beijing now. i know for certain the sun does not rise at 11 am in this part of the world. how come in the game, it does? not that i mind a little more darkness, but...
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Old 05-21-07, 05:29 PM   #3
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In RFB Ctrl+W generates a weather report.
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Old 05-21-07, 05:41 PM   #4
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I have been to japan before, and in fact, i live in beijing now. i know for certain the sun does not rise at 11 am in this part of the world. how come in the game, it does? not that i mind a little more darkness, but...
From a certain perspective the sun does indeed rise at 11am in Beijing

When you have your watch set to Hawaii time, and if you then travel to Japan (or Beijing) the sun will rise at around 11am Hawaii time. The game's chronometers are all set to the port you sail from.
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Old 05-21-07, 05:44 PM   #5
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Popeye, far as I can tell, the time shown is the time at your home port. In other words, as you cross time zones your boat's clock is not updated to the new time zone. So the farther west you go, the later the sun rises (and the later it sets) as far as your clock is concerned.

It's no big deal really to tell when sunrise and sunset is, if nothing is happening I go to map view and run up the TC. Say it's night - the instant the map changes from "night" mode to "day" mode I go back to 1x TC and have a look. Well guess what, the sun is just starting to peek over the horizon.

Same during the day - when the map changes from "day" to "night" mode, well the sun is just starting to set.

Of course if stuff is happening and I'm running at 1x TC it's easy enough to see for myself (from bridge or periscope) if the sun is rising or setting!

Regarding weather report, like -Pv- said, the devs could have left it out completely. Just be glad it's there. And it's really not much harder to implement than clicking on the button that really should (but isn't) there

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Old 05-22-07, 11:43 PM   #6
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"...I have been to japan before, and in fact, i live in beijing now. i know for certain the sun does not rise at 11 am in this part of the world. how come in the game, it does? not that i mind a little more darkness, but..."

3033 is correct. If you hold your mouse over the time in the lower right, you will see the words "base time." This is no different than SH3 which was also a fixed time of GMT with no zone compensation. Where I live, the sun is going down @ 04:00 GMT. For those based in far east ports, the time difference is a lot less for them than for us Pearl folks, but they also get kicked out of their bases early in the war.

I also use 3033's same suggestion to mentally or on a bit of paper "mark" the time I see the map color change while time surfing. I use that to judge when I should be hiding and attacking in enemy controlled water. Historically, dusk and dawn (the two hours around those times) are the most ideal for subs, but I don't let that keep me from attacking at all hours if other conditions are favorable (weather, no escorts, few planes spotted recently, strong battery, etc.)
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Old 05-23-07, 09:20 AM   #7
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I don't know what it was like in WW2 but nowadays British and US military go by Zulu Time (Greenwich Mean Time), so in Beijing the sun probably rises at about midnight Zulu.
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Old 05-23-07, 04:03 PM   #8
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I don't know what it was like in WW2 but nowadays British and US military go by Zulu Time (Greenwich Mean Time), so in Beijing the sun probably rises at about midnight Zulu.
Probably it was much the same back then. German operations on the Eastern Front were conducted using Central European time (at the beginning of the invasion, at least).
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