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SUBMAN1 · 05-17-07, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ASWnut101

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...In the evil land of America, blackcats are still easier to get ahold of than 7.62x54mm rounds.

*COUGH*7.62x39*COUGH*

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I still like the ignorance and myth displayed at Americas gun laws! It is quite entertaining! :rotfl:

As do I.

That was pretty funny!

By the way, do you have a harder time getting a hold of Blackcats than 7.62x39? I do. Its probably a good thing though since I didn't know I was supposed to shoot my AK-47 instead (I think he said 74 though which doesn't use 7.62) at the weddings I attend so I will probably need to go get some - and the easier the better!

-S

ASWnut101 · 05-17-07, 05:06 PM

Well, I read it this morning as AK-47. Interesting.

Yahoshua · 05-17-07, 05:30 PM

There's a few discrepancies in the article that I'll point out:

1st: Cho didn't get the firearm via a loophole, as under Virginia Law his court-ordered attendance to an outpatient facility can and does constitute involuntary commitment to a mental institution. The judge dropped the ball on this one.

2nd: For anyone who cared to read the article, the child won't even see the firearm until he's 14.

"Mr Ludwig said Bubba's gun would likely remain at his grandfather's house until he was 14. "

With this in mind, this is obviously a political statement to embarrass the beaureaucracy that has enforced these opressive laws against firearms owners.

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
I'm not worried about 10 month olds with weapon permits. I'm worried about adults who have them.

I'm not going to wste my time to worry about someone who bothered to jump through endless hoops to get a FOID card. I'd be more concerned for the criminal who isn't going to jump through all the hoops to get a FOID card.

Yahoshua · 05-17-07, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by micky1up

they do have something in common both the baby and the adult that feel they need a gun are behaving like someone whos 10 months old

So you're saying that all people who own and use firearms are immature?

Yahoshua · 05-17-07, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dean_acheson

The ol' gun debate. New Jersey is getting ready to outlaw large caliber weapons, which will kill reinactments of historical battles.

lovely.

Yeah, I heard about this.

It's a crying-ass shame too.

Heibges · 05-17-07, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by ASWnut101

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...In the evil land of America, blackcats are still easier to get ahold of than 7.62x54mm rounds.

*COUGH*7.62x39*COUGH*

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I still like the ignorance and myth displayed at Americas gun laws! It is quite entertaining! :rotfl:

As do I.

That was pretty funny!

By the way, do you have a harder time getting a hold of Blackcats than 7.62x39? I do. Its probably a good thing though since I didn't know I was supposed to shoot my AK-47 instead (I think he said 74 though which doesn't use 7.62) at the weddings I attend so I will probably need to go get some - and the easier the better!

-S

Fireworks are a lot harder to get than ammo. Especially, good fireworks. I had a friend who would drive 20 yours down to "Pedro's South of the Border" in South Carolina to buy a boat load for July 4th every year.

If 7.62mm x51 is hard to find, it is only because shooters have bought up all the surplus.

I remember when .45 was dirt cheap when the military switched to 9mm, but even that is not cheap to shoot anymore.

Shooter bought up SKS and AK's for same reason. 7.62mmx39 was dirt cheap, and a great little plinking round due to its relatively low velocity. Plus, it was cheaper to shoot than .22 LR.

SUBMAN1 · 05-17-07, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Heibges

Fireworks are a lot harder to get than ammo. Especially, good fireworks. I had a friend who would drive 20 yours down to "Pedro's South of the Border" in South Carolina to buy a boat load for July 4th every year.

It is harder, and I think it is more expensive too to find/buy fireworks. Weird huh?

-S

SUBMAN1 · 05-17-07, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

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Originally Posted by micky1up

they do have something in common both the baby and the adult that feel they need a gun are behaving like someone whos 10 months old

So you're saying that all people who own and use firearms are immature?

Good point.

The way I see it is, people who think this way are really too immature to own firearms themselves and this is simply a cover to explain why they should not own firearms without stating the obvious. A form of passing blame to everyone as cover for their own misfailings. If Sigmund Frued were here, I think he would agree with me on this one.

-S

Godboo · 05-17-07, 10:01 PM

The idea that the government should be the only entity to have firearms scares the hell outta me.

The people need to be able to defend themselves in case their government becomes opressive. Hence, the American people need to be able to obtain firearms.

SUBMAN1 · 05-17-07, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Godboo

The idea that the government should be the only entity to have firearms scares the hell outta me.

The people need to be able to defend themselves in case their government becomes opressive. Hence, the American people need to be able to obtain firearms.

And however unlikely - the possibilty of invasion always exists too. The US may seem like it is, but it is not omnipotent.

-S

Godboo · 05-17-07, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Godboo

The idea that the government should be the only entity to have firearms scares the hell outta me.

The people need to be able to defend themselves in case their government becomes opressive. Hence, the American people need to be able to obtain firearms.

And however unlikely - the possibilty of invasion always exists too. The US may seem like it is, but it is not omnipotent.

-S

Helloooooo.....Red Dawn!!!! It could TOTALLY happen!!!!

August · 05-17-07, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dean_acheson

The ol' gun debate. New Jersey is getting ready to outlaw large caliber weapons, which will kill reinactments of historical battles.

lovely.

Not suprising. What caliber do they consider large enough? 9mm? Seriously, there's no exception for antique muzzle loaders? Even Massachusetts has that.

Heibges · 05-18-07, 12:13 AM

What about Sharps Rifles? They had all kinds of weird large calibers, and were made in the 19th Century. Are there exceptions for those?

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ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Well, I read it this morning as AK-47. Interesting. __________________

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Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There's a few discrepancies in the article that I'll point out: 1st: Cho didn't get the firearm via a loophole, as under Virginia Law his court-ordered attendance to an outpatient facility can and does constitute involuntary commitment to a mental institution. The judge dropped the ball on this one. 2nd: For anyone who cared to read the article, the child won't even see the firearm until he's 14. "Mr Ludwig said Bubba's gun would likely remain at his grandfather's house until he was 14. " With this in mind, this is obviously a political statement to embarrass the beaureaucracy that has enforced these opressive laws against firearms owners. Quote: Originally Posted by The Avon Lady I'm not worried about 10 month olds with weapon permits. I'm worried about adults who have them. I'm not going to wste my time to worry about someone who bothered to jump through endless hoops to get a FOID card. I'd be more concerned for the criminal who isn't going to jump through all the hoops to get a FOID card. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

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Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	What about Sharps Rifles? They had all kinds of weird large calibers, and were made in the 19th Century. Are there exceptions for those? __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

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Godboo Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The idea that the government should be the only entity to have firearms scares the hell outta me. The people need to be able to defend themselves in case their government becomes opressive. Hence, the American people need to be able to obtain firearms.