SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-17-07, 03:22 PM   #1
ReallyDedPoet
Canadian Wolf
 
ReallyDedPoet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast
Posts: 10,890
Downloads: 946
Uploads: 5


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by reallydedpoet
Anybody watch Sea Hunters on Discovery, a lot of shows has them looking for wrecks of U-Boats

RDP
This is on right now: 5:20 Atlantic Time, , on the History Channel, about U-215, minelayer involved in Operation Drumbeat He, he, quoting myself.

Anyway, check it out if you can.

RDP
__________________

Back in the Day



ReallyDedPoet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-07, 09:22 PM   #2
DirtyHarry3033
Weps
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 351
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Capt. Shark Bait, thanks for the heads-up Caught it this afternoon on Discovery, very informative and entertaining.

Though I might have preferred a straight documentary relying on interviews with historians, and archival photos and newsreel footage as opposed to a hollywood-style "docu-drama", I'll take whatever I can get on Lusitania. Her fate holds almost as much fascination for me as Titanic.

My biggest problem with it was how every time the "docu-drama" Schwieger wanted to dive to periscope depth, he'd order "Blow ballast!!!" :rotfl:Well in my attempt to "rationalize" this discrepancy I thought how in those days the order "Hard a'starboard" resulted in a turn to port. So maybe in those days the order to "Blow ballast" would cause the boat to submerge??? :hmm:

DH
DirtyHarry3033 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-07, 04:32 PM   #3
Capt. Shark Bait
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: in a convergance zone
Posts: 1,186
Downloads: 3
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyHarry3033
....in those days the order to "Blow ballast" would cause the boat to submerge??? :hmm:

DH
i'm thinkin that could be a translation thing, but yeah, "blow ballast" would result in submerging. in U571 the order givin was the same or blow all ballast, or something similar
__________________
Leiser und tödlicher edler Ritter der Tiefe



Corsair Vengeance M70; ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z; FX 8350; Asus 7870; Samsung SyncMaster 2243SWX; coolmax CUG950B 950w psu; 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3; Corsair M4 SSD 128GB, WD 1TB; x18 DVR212D; 7SP1
Capt. Shark Bait is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-07, 05:14 PM   #4
Sailor Steve
Eternal Patrol
 
Sailor Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: High in the mountains of Utah
Posts: 50,369
Downloads: 745
Uploads: 249


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt. Shark Bait
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyHarry3033
....in those days the order to "Blow ballast" would cause the boat to submerge??? :hmm:

DH
i'm thinkin that could be a translation thing, but yeah, "blow ballast" would result in submerging. in U571 the order givin was the same or blow all ballast, or something similar
I don't know about WW1 Germans, but in WW2 and later "blow ballast" is the order given to empty the tanks, forcing the boat to surface.

In U-571 Harvey Keitel also gave three blasts on the klaxon and said "Dive, dive!" Three blasts is to surface, two is to dive. I wouldn't use that movie as an example of anything, except maybe how to make a bad movie.
__________________
“Never do anything you can't take back.”
—Rocky Russo
Sailor Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-07, 05:58 PM   #5
Capt. Shark Bait
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: in a convergance zone
Posts: 1,186
Downloads: 3
Uploads: 0
Default

oh, right, he he
__________________
Leiser und tödlicher edler Ritter der Tiefe



Corsair Vengeance M70; ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z; FX 8350; Asus 7870; Samsung SyncMaster 2243SWX; coolmax CUG950B 950w psu; 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3; Corsair M4 SSD 128GB, WD 1TB; x18 DVR212D; 7SP1
Capt. Shark Bait is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-07, 06:19 PM   #6
DirtyHarry3033
Weps
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 351
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt. Shark Bait
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyHarry3033
....in those days the order to "Blow ballast" would cause the boat to submerge??? :hmm:

DH
i'm thinkin that could be a translation thing, but yeah, "blow ballast" would result in submerging. in U571 the order givin was the same or blow all ballast, or something similar


Let's think about it. There are "ballast tanks" on every sub. The purpose of such a tank is to make the sub float, or to sink, or to have neutral buoyancy in order to maintain a certain depth (such as periscope depth).

The way this is done is by flooding the tanks with ballast (water) to make the boat sink, blowing compressed air into the tanks to make the boat rise by forcing out ballast (water), and by fiddling around with taking on and blowing out ballast (water) until neutral buoyancy and trim has been achieved.

Bottom line is, "blowing ballast" involves expelling water out of the ballast tanks and replacing it with air. This causes the boat to rise.

U-571 was an entertaining movie, but it had more to do with action than with submarines. The submarine was just a convenient location for the action to be set

DH
DirtyHarry3033 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.