Does sitting on the bottom help you at all?

DanCanovas · 05-14-07, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by maillemaker

So is there any advantage in bottoming your sub on the bottom and sitting quiet?

Or do they hear you just the same? I would think the asdic would have a hard time differentiating you from the bottom?

in real life yes I think this would work, not in SH3 as far as I'm aware

Penelope_Grey · 05-14-07, 04:03 PM

In my experiences it does work. They cannot pinpoint your exact location, the deeper the bottom is the better, so if for example the bottom is only 30m then chances are they will get you. But if its like 80m+ then you are sorted.

Corsair · 05-14-07, 04:49 PM

Well just happened to sit on the bottom around 85m due to some flooding on board and I can tell you they dropped every can right on my head... boat lost with all hands after 5 patrols.

Will write a hundred times : "Even if it is a beautiful convoy, never attack in shallow waters..."

Penelope_Grey · 05-14-07, 04:53 PM

If you hit the bottom with a bang, that is usually a dead giveaway. You have to set it down gently so not to make a racket.

Chock · 05-14-07, 04:54 PM

As already mentioned, in real life it would probably be a viable tactic, although it probably wouldn't do your hydrophone heads any favours either.

But as far as I'm aware, from the way detection works in SH, it wouldn't make any difference.

Penelope_Grey · 05-14-07, 04:55 PM

Bottoming the boat is moddeled in stock, and I do believe improved with GWX? I read it somewhere here.

Spytrx · 05-14-07, 05:27 PM

real life - a saviour for many submarines of all countries when it got hot. There are some great tales of US subs sitting on the floor for 10 hours whilst the Jap fleet dropped hundreds of DC's on them

Vanilla of SH3 this trick doesn't work - might have something to do with the seabed being flat and you painting a real nice picture on their sonar

Tricky · 05-14-07, 06:00 PM

It seemed to work for me on my last patrol. Botched a convoy attack just south of ireland and got dc'd pretty bad. Ended up sinking to the bottom and hitting with quite a bang. 137 meters deep. Because of the positive bouancy(sp, whew!) effect in gwx (after i got damage under control), i had started floating back to the surface. Around 128 meters they started detecting me again, but once I got settled in on the bottom and stayed there, I didnt once get detected and the escorts eventually sailed off.

In my opinion, it was the only thing that saved me from certain death.
Limped back to port with:
stern tube destroyed
stb and port electric engine destroyed
electric engine room compressor destroyed
port diesel engine destroyed
aft batteries destroyed
con tower heavily damanged

05-14-07, 04:03 PM	#2
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In my experiences it does work. They cannot pinpoint your exact location, the deeper the bottom is the better, so if for example the bottom is only 30m then chances are they will get you. But if its like 80m+ then you are sorted. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

05-14-07, 04:49 PM	#3
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Well just happened to sit on the bottom around 85m due to some flooding on board and I can tell you they dropped every can right on my head... boat lost with all hands after 5 patrols. Will write a hundred times : "Even if it is a beautiful convoy, never attack in shallow waters..." __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

05-14-07, 04:53 PM	#4
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you hit the bottom with a bang, that is usually a dead giveaway. You have to set it down gently so not to make a racket. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

05-14-07, 04:55 PM	#6
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bottoming the boat is moddeled in stock, and I do believe improved with GWX? I read it somewhere here. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

05-14-07, 04:54 PM	#5
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As already mentioned, in real life it would probably be a viable tactic, although it probably wouldn't do your hydrophone heads any favours either. But as far as I'm aware, from the way detection works in SH, it wouldn't make any difference.

05-14-07, 05:27 PM	#7
Spytrx Medic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 167 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	real life - a saviour for many submarines of all countries when it got hot. There are some great tales of US subs sitting on the floor for 10 hours whilst the Jap fleet dropped hundreds of DC's on them Vanilla of SH3 this trick doesn't work - might have something to do with the seabed being flat and you painting a real nice picture on their sonar

05-14-07, 06:00 PM	#8
Tricky Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 47 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	It seemed to work for me on my last patrol. Botched a convoy attack just south of ireland and got dc'd pretty bad. Ended up sinking to the bottom and hitting with quite a bang. 137 meters deep. Because of the positive bouancy(sp, whew!) effect in gwx (after i got damage under control), i had started floating back to the surface. Around 128 meters they started detecting me again, but once I got settled in on the bottom and stayed there, I didnt once get detected and the escorts eventually sailed off. In my opinion, it was the only thing that saved me from certain death. Limped back to port with: stern tube destroyed stb and port electric engine destroyed electric engine room compressor destroyed port diesel engine destroyed aft batteries destroyed con tower heavily damanged