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Old 05-14-07, 09:07 AM   #1
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Di you radio in after attacking the TF? Otherwise how would COMSUBPAC know you sank those ships? :hmm:
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Old 05-14-07, 09:15 AM   #2
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My take on this is a little different. This was a TF you randomly encounter--no? In this case, your main mission is what was assigned by SUBCOMPAC when you left port--a patrol area, a recon mission, etc. This will have the icon on the map. This particular mission was a mini-mission (if you will) whereby you chose to engage. You have accomplished it and have gained renown for the sunk liner. Other than the renown, you will get no other kudos--except from me--"Way to Go!!!!"
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Old 05-14-07, 09:21 AM   #3
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I believe you need to sink 3 DD in the task force to complete this. If it was a regular convoy, sink at least 3 merchants to complete this.
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Old 05-14-07, 09:44 AM   #4
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I havent recently bothered with the radio, from past experience it achieved nothing.
i could give it a go sinking 3 destroyers to complete that, although it seems a little odd.

for "realisms sake" i suppose i best not bother telling command about it, i should just sneak in there, hit the liner and leave. im sure thats what would have been done in real life. i can always pretend i was acting on orders.

however if to accomplish the mission i would have to engage destroyers, im not sure i would want to somethings not right about being told to engage those.
god forbid i should pick on a elite destroyer crew who apparantly cannot be evaded.

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i know cruisers arent capital ships it was kind of my point. i didnt have externals on so even overtookthem during the night for a second look. 2 cruisers were the only large worthwhile targets. the rest were destroyers. and even after sinking the cruisers wich was no small achievement i got no credit.

that said, last time compac bothered to answer my message they told me not to engage a convoy i just engaged oh well. probably wise of them too, as it was i had to sneak out in shallow waters and got detected. spend a good time on full power manouvering like a maniac till i got into the depths where i could hide.

lesson learned dont shoot stuff when your in very shallow water miles from safety.
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Old 05-14-07, 10:14 AM   #5
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I believe you need to sink 3 DD in the task force to complete this. If it was a regular convoy, sink at least 3 merchants to complete this.
This is almost correct. Its two of the DD's. You dont even have to sink the liner.

In fact you can sink ANY DD's and complete the task. They dont even have be a part of that convoy. So theres still a chance to "complete" the task.
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Old 05-14-07, 05:19 PM   #6
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I believe you need to sink 3 DD in the task force to complete this. If it was a regular convoy, sink at least 3 merchants to complete this.
This is almost correct. Its two of the DD's. You dont even have to sink the liner.

In fact you can sink ANY DD's and complete the task. They dont even have be a part of that convoy. So theres still a chance to "complete" the task.
okay thats just a shame. ignore 18k troopship sink destroyer i hope they do something about that.
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Old 05-14-07, 05:24 PM   #7
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I think 9th cow makes a valid point here. And again someone else offered that if you hit the liner prior to reaching your assigned area without sinking any further traffic once arriving on station then you would still get an incomplete irregardless of the total tonnage.

From experience I have expended all of my ammo and fish in this manor prior to reaching the assigned patrol area and still ended up the mission was incomplete, however on the other hand, I recieved medals along with the crew in addition to the the crew receiving promotions.

In that sence it still just a game with certain criterion to satisfy.

BTW...Sending contact reports has been of no benefit on any of my patrols. I don't wanna talk with'em anyways. I just wanna sink stuff...by any means....
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Old 05-14-07, 09:02 PM   #8
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Last night I encountered a big convoy and radioed it in. To my shock, they told me to disregard the merchants and hit the escorts! The escorts were weaving all over the place, completely impossible to form a solution. I decided to disregard orders and send the cargo to the deep. Guess they can wrap my knuckles when I get back home.

Renown for:
Euroliner = 900
Large Modern Comp. Freighter = 250
Jap Destroyer = 120

You do the math.
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Old 05-15-07, 12:36 PM   #9
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Last night I encountered a big convoy and radioed it in. To my shock, they told me to disregard the merchants and hit the escorts! The escorts were weaving all over the place, completely impossible to form a solution. I decided to disregard orders and send the cargo to the deep. Guess they can wrap my knuckles when I get back home.

Renown for:
Euroliner = 900
Large Modern Comp. Freighter = 250
Jap Destroyer = 120

You do the math.
Exact same thing for me. Was all lined up on the liner and radio'd about the convoy, and was told the DD's were priority targets.
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Old 05-15-07, 04:15 AM   #10
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I believe you need to sink 3 DD in the task force to complete this. If it was a regular convoy, sink at least 3 merchants to complete this.
This is almost correct. Its two of the DD's. You dont even have to sink the liner.

In fact you can sink ANY DD's and complete the task. They dont even have be a part of that convoy. So theres still a chance to "complete" the task.
That is not right.
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Old 05-15-07, 09:16 AM   #11
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I believe you need to sink 3 DD in the task force to complete this. If it was a regular convoy, sink at least 3 merchants to complete this.
This is almost correct. Its two of the DD's. You dont even have to sink the liner.

In fact you can sink ANY DD's and complete the task. They dont even have be a part of that convoy. So theres still a chance to "complete" the task.
That is not right.
Its similar to when you report in a convoy contact and get messaged back "Good find.. attack the convoy" or something of that sort.

If you screw up and not complete the attack and they get away from you (life can be tough for an S boat) you can attack ANOTHER convoy and still get credit for the "mission".
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My take on this is a little different. This was a TF you randomly encounter--no? In this case, your main mission is what was assigned by SUBCOMPAC when you left port--a patrol area, a recon mission, etc. This will have the icon on the map. This particular mission was a mini-mission (if you will) whereby you chose to engage. You have accomplished it and have gained renown for the sunk liner. Other than the renown, you will get no other kudos--except from me--"Way to Go!!!!"
I think Vindex is talking about the objectives that are assigned to you while at sea and reporting your contacts. I've only ever completed one of these objectives once as I always seem to get an objective that has nothing to do with the TF I've discovered. An example would be finding a TF of 3 cruisers and a pile of destroyers and getting an objective of sinking an enemy capital ship. Sinking all three cruisers would not change the objective to complete (as cruisers are NOT capital ships).
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