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Old 05-14-07, 08:25 AM   #1
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thank christ we never had to see those bloody things folowing nagasaki... 180km wide fireball... jeebus
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Old 05-14-07, 08:47 AM   #2
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180km wide fireball? Try 4.6km!

Personally, as a retired nuke puke I prefer pure fusion weapons-

http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impac.../intromap.html

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Old 05-14-07, 08:57 AM   #3
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thank christ we never had to see those bloody things folowing nagasaki... 180km wide fireball... jeebus
180km fireball?!?!

Noooo!

The Tzar bomb was made for 100Mt, but was only ever detonated at 50Mt.
At 50Mt the fireball was 4.6km. If it had detonated at 100Mt the fireball would have been around 6.2km. Nowhere near 180km!

Of course the dammage will spread much further than 6.2km. With the 100Mt bomb you would be badly burnt over 200km away and windows would break over 1200km away.


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Old 05-14-07, 09:40 PM   #4
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thank christ we never had to see those bloody things folowing nagasaki... 180km wide fireball... jeebus
180km fireball?!?!

Noooo!

The Tzar bomb was made for 100Mt, but was only ever detonated at 50Mt.
At 50Mt the fireball was 4.6km. If it had detonated at 100Mt the fireball would have been around 6.2km. Nowhere near 180km!

Of course the dammage will spread much further than 6.2km. With the 100Mt bomb you would be badly burnt over 200km away and windows would break over 1200km away.


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hmmmm i posted after watching the 2nd one, which AL posted. perhaps im getting confused, and it was *meant* to be a 180km fireball, or something, when they were talking about its intended use against a target like london... i'll rewatch it tonight to try make sense of myself
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Old 05-14-07, 11:05 PM   #5
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Even at 150 megatons most of the explosive energy would be wasted with a radius not much larger than the 58 megaton blast (using the square root law). Sorry to disappoint you, but a 150 megaton bomb isn't going to produce a 180 km wide fireball.
Wanna learn about nukes? Start by reading here-

The Effects of Nuclear Weapons

http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/nukeffct/enw77.htm

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Old 05-15-07, 12:27 AM   #6
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To help you understand the fireball size of the weapons I have listed, here is a chart I found that should help.

The Russian relised that a bigger fireball is no good if it misses the target or gets shot down on the way there. That's why smaller MIRV warheads became standard. Lay a couple of them on a target and they will do more damage than a large one.
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Old 05-15-07, 04:41 AM   #7
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To help you understand the fireball size of the weapons I have listed, here is a chart I found that should help.

The Russian relised that a bigger fireball is no good if it misses the target or gets shot down on the way there. That's why smaller MIRV warheads became standard. Lay a couple of them on a target and they will do more damage than a large one.
Can't see the chart :hmm:
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To help you understand the fireball size of the weapons I have listed, here is a chart I found that should help.

The Russian relised that a bigger fireball is no good if it misses the target or gets shot down on the way there. That's why smaller MIRV warheads became standard. Lay a couple of them on a target and they will do more damage than a large one.
Can't see the chart :hmm:
Prahaps he ment this one.

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