What do they want from me??

vindex · 05-14-07, 02:49 AM

I encountered four (!!) destroyers escorting a fast-moving passenger liner. Sweet! Must be some critical reinforcements, I think. I wait with decks awash until I see two of the destroyers, send a contact report, and dive. My message (which I have no control over) reports that I have encountered a task force. The reply tells me to engage the task force and inflict serious harm. So I engage and, not wasting my torps on the destroyers, sink the luxury liner. Down it goes with 4 torps, and I make my escape. Rack up 18k.

But my mission is showing unfinished. So I'm thinking, okay, I read somewhere that maybe you need to sink 20k to complete the objective. I do an end run around the four remaining destroyers and nail one of them for 2k, so I'm over 20k now. No dice, still uncompleted.

What exactly am I supposed to accomplish here? I would have been better off, renown-wise, to have just engaged without sending in the report. Isn't sinking a big liner that was better protected than Fort Knox a "victory"?

elanaiba · 05-14-07, 03:35 AM

Any objective that you complete gives you EXTRA renown, stuff that is added to what you get from sinking the ships.

So its always better to send contact reports. Unless of course you get located because of it. And you die. Without saves.

vindex · 05-14-07, 04:27 AM

What is the skinny on whether radio messages or using radar gives away your position? I've heard conflicting stories. I have never noticed any effect of either on nearby ships. Sometimes I think the aircraft come at me because of radio and/or radar, but I can't tell if it's just coincidence or what.

Anyway, I'm still asking, what is the victory condition for this mission? Does anyone know?

Can anyone confirm that NOT accomplishing a mission does not impose a renown penalty? (I see the last post is from Romania -- anyone on the dev team perhaps?)

elanaiba · 05-14-07, 04:33 AM

Yes, someone from the dev team.

Of course its better to accomplish objectives, but just getting them doesn't imply you won't get renown for sinking those ships. That one remains unchanged.

9th_cow · 05-14-07, 08:24 AM

So anyone care to tell us why no matter what we do these missions are always considered incomplete.

if your told to engage a task force consisting of 4 destroyers and 1 euro liner. why does sinking the liner not complete the mission ?

same goes for engaging under the orders "sink capital ship" i sank every cruiser in the convoy over 2 days. they were the only things that could be considered capital ships.

result, incomplete.

joea · 05-14-07, 09:07 AM

Di you radio in after attacking the TF? Otherwise how would COMSUBPAC know you sank those ships? :hmm:

Bear · 05-18-07, 07:35 AM

I am off the coast of Japan. I just fired my last fish. I radio a status report and Comsubpac tells me to go after another convoy up the coast. What do I do, Spit at them? At least BDU told you to return to base. How come No withdraw orders from Comsubpac?

SteamWake · 05-18-07, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bear

I am off the coast of Japan. I just fired my last fish. I radio a status report and Comsubpac tells me to go after another convoy up the coast. What do I do, Spit at them? At least BDU told you to return to base. How come No withdraw orders from Comsubpac?

Let me guess you still had plenty of deck gun ammo ? PAC has some grand ambitions at times.

You can still go re-fit but good luck on getting back in time to catch the convoy.

But thats okay as was stated before you can attack ANY convoy and still complete the task.

Bear · 05-19-07, 06:29 PM

Complete the task! :rotfl: Are you a running for office in the goverment? With the Japs (No offense intended) using Nuke Depth Charges and a submarine with screen doors CSPAC just wants me cold, wet, and dead. I am glad Sub Comanders had more sense or else we would have lost more than 52 boats in the Pacific.

05-14-07, 02:49 AM	#1
vindex Planesman Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 192 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	What do they want from me?? I encountered four (!!) destroyers escorting a fast-moving passenger liner. Sweet! Must be some critical reinforcements, I think. I wait with decks awash until I see two of the destroyers, send a contact report, and dive. My message (which I have no control over) reports that I have encountered a task force. The reply tells me to engage the task force and inflict serious harm. So I engage and, not wasting my torps on the destroyers, sink the luxury liner. Down it goes with 4 torps, and I make my escape. Rack up 18k. But my mission is showing unfinished. So I'm thinking, okay, I read somewhere that maybe you need to sink 20k to complete the objective. I do an end run around the four remaining destroyers and nail one of them for 2k, so I'm over 20k now. No dice, still uncompleted. What exactly am I supposed to accomplish here? I would have been better off, renown-wise, to have just engaged without sending in the report. Isn't sinking a big liner that was better protected than Fort Knox a "victory"?

05-18-07, 07:35 AM	#7
Bear Helmsman Join Date: May 2005 Location: CSA - Confused States of America Posts: 107 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	What Do They Want From Me. Comsubpac Orders? I am off the coast of Japan. I just fired my last fish. I radio a status report and Comsubpac tells me to go after another convoy up the coast. What do I do, Spit at them? At least BDU told you to return to base. How come No withdraw orders from Comsubpac?

05-19-07, 06:29 PM	#9
Bear Helmsman Join Date: May 2005 Location: CSA - Confused States of America Posts: 107 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	What do they want from me? My cold wet dead body! Complete the task! :rotfl: Are you a running for office in the goverment? With the Japs (No offense intended) using Nuke Depth Charges and a submarine with screen doors CSPAC just wants me cold, wet, and dead. I am glad Sub Comanders had more sense or else we would have lost more than 52 boats in the Pacific.

05-14-07, 03:35 AM	#2
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Any objective that you complete gives you EXTRA renown, stuff that is added to what you get from sinking the ships. So its always better to send contact reports. Unless of course you get located because of it. And you die. Without saves.

05-14-07, 04:27 AM	#3
vindex Planesman Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 192 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	What is the skinny on whether radio messages or using radar gives away your position? I've heard conflicting stories. I have never noticed any effect of either on nearby ships. Sometimes I think the aircraft come at me because of radio and/or radar, but I can't tell if it's just coincidence or what. Anyway, I'm still asking, what is the victory condition for this mission? Does anyone know? Can anyone confirm that NOT accomplishing a mission does not impose a renown penalty? (I see the last post is from Romania -- anyone on the dev team perhaps?)

05-14-07, 04:33 AM	#4
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Yes, someone from the dev team. Of course its better to accomplish objectives, but just getting them doesn't imply you won't get renown for sinking those ships. That one remains unchanged.

05-14-07, 08:24 AM	#5
9th_cow Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 182 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	So anyone care to tell us why no matter what we do these missions are always considered incomplete. if your told to engage a task force consisting of 4 destroyers and 1 euro liner. why does sinking the liner not complete the mission ? same goes for engaging under the orders "sink capital ship" i sank every cruiser in the convoy over 2 days. they were the only things that could be considered capital ships. result, incomplete.

05-14-07, 09:07 AM	#6
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Di you radio in after attacking the TF? Otherwise how would COMSUBPAC know you sank those ships? :hmm: