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Old 05-10-07, 02:07 PM   #16
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Cant be arsed to make a new topic for this so I put it here.

What is wrong with Russia? Are they so ashamed of the war between them and us that they have to lie about it on their Victory Day? In RIA Novosti's official site, there's one article that has few interviews of the veterans. For example, there's talk about how one soldier took part to the ambphious landings to Hanko. Well... there never was such thing. Only battle there ever was, was between a land fortress Russarö and the Kirov (in which the Kirov was damaged and had to spent some months in the drydock). Also, one veteran said that when they finally conquered Hanko, "they bathed in the blood of the Finns". Umm... Ivan you really need to give up the Vodka. :p When Soviet troops took Hanko, there was nobody there to defend it. Why? Because it was in the terms of the truce that Finland was to lend Hanko to Soviet Union for 30yrs.

Ok, that's it. Sorry for the rant, just had to let it out. No pun intended.
Disinfo and propaganda has come the truth in their minds. We know how they raped the churches and property in Hanko. Wonder if they remember how they drowned by the thousands when they were kicked out of Gangut.
Yeh, I cant understand the propaganda thing that is still going on in Russia. It's so obvious, so why keep doing it? Over 60yrs have gone by, so I cant see who will it hurt to get the facts right and stop over-glorifying their achievements.
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Old 05-10-07, 02:13 PM   #17
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Cant be arsed to make a new topic for this so I put it here.

What is wrong with Russia? Are they so ashamed of the war between them and us that they have to lie about it on their Victory Day? In RIA Novosti's official site, there's one article that has few interviews of the veterans. For example, there's talk about how one soldier took part to the ambphious landings to Hanko. Well... there never was such thing. Only battle there ever was, was between a land fortress Russarö and the Kirov (in which the Kirov was damaged and had to spent some months in the drydock). Also, one veteran said that when they finally conquered Hanko, "they bathed in the blood of the Finns". Umm... Ivan you really need to give up the Vodka. :p When Soviet troops took Hanko, there was nobody there to defend it. Why? Because it was in the terms of the truce that Finland was to lend Hanko to Soviet Union for 30yrs.

Ok, that's it. Sorry for the rant, just had to let it out. No pun intended.
Disinfo and propaganda has come the truth in their minds. We know how they raped the churches and property in Hanko. Wonder if they remember how they drowned by the thousands when they were kicked out of Gangut.
Yeh, I cant understand the propaganda thing that is still going on in Russia. It's so obvious, so why keep doing it? Over 60yrs have gone by, so I cant see who will it hurt to get the facts right and stop over-glorifying their achievements.
Its all they got, seems that truth would hurt.
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Old 05-10-07, 03:17 PM   #18
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We pwned Hitlers behind so hard a Panzer in Mexico exploded. :p

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Russia still is at war with Japan IIRC, so technically, although we've got VE and VP day, the second world war hasn't ended
Wait wait wait, what the bloody hell?
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We pwned Hitlers behind so hard a Panzer in Mexico exploded. :p

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Russia still is at war with Japan IIRC, so technically, although we've got VE and VP day, the second world war hasn't ended
Wait wait wait, what the bloody hell?
There were panzers in Mexico?
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We pwned Hitlers behind so hard a Panzer in Mexico exploded. :p

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Russia still is at war with Japan IIRC, so technically, although we've got VE and VP day, the second world war hasn't ended
Wait wait wait, what the bloody hell?
The major battles, man vs man, tank vs tank, were in the East Front, that is a fact.
Pacific was though tough.
Maybe you should have listened Patton and continued East, he said that you lost the war.
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Old 05-10-07, 04:16 PM   #21
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The Second World War officially ended on September 8, 1951 with the Treaty Of San Francisco. Russia (as the Soviet Union) was one of the signers. It went into effect on April 28, 1952.
http://www.isop.ucla.edu/eas/documents/peace1951.htm
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