Why did they do it AGAIN?

[longam]

Not uncommon as been said before. Microsoft released Flight Sim 10 as playable yet it has bugs that need fixed, and the frame rate is a big hit. They are in their 3 beta test for patch 1. This sim came out long before SH4.

you gripers disgust me. I updated my computer just for this game and has it been worth it, you bet it has. If you sample the mods that have been made and the two patches so far you cam make SH4 whatever you want. It plays great on my machine and I'm sure on other peoples as well. I wish you people would not exaggerate the negatives and start accentuating the positives. you really make me sick. Devildog

[wireman]

Right back at ya fella.

[TDK1044]

Constantly posting here about how unhappy you are with Ubisoft really serves no purpose. This is not a Ubisoft website, and the Devs who come and read posts here are only looking at technical posts relating to the game.

Why doesn't one of you guys compose a letter to Ubisoft on behalf of all those who wish to complain about the state of the game at release? The letter can be posted and tweaked prior to being sent. Those who wish to be associated with it can let the writer know.

I'd Keep it to one page and keep it polite. Nobody will read an aggressive, inpolite letter. At least by doing something like this you'd be communicating with the right people, instead of creating yet another "I hate Ubisoft and I'm never purchasing one of their products again" thread.

Nobody on this Forum can answer for Ubisoft, so talk to them.

[Silence]

These bugs spoken of are the reason forums like this are so effective. We can pool our resources and make something good even better.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

This is not a Ubisoft website, Nobody on this Forum can answer for Ubisoft, so talk to them.

QFT

Hey Ive noticed that since last night that has been a sudden upswing of new posters (less than 10 posts) expressing their discontent.

Whats up with that ?

[VonBlade]

Hey Ive noticed that since last night that has been a sudden upswing of new posters (less than 10 posts) expressing their discontent. Whats up with that ?

Maybe, just maybe, they are people who've only recently gone out to purchase a submarine simulation and are finding the problems with it a suitable cause for complaint.

Maybe not all of us have been here since the dawn of time playing SH1.

Maybe they've only just discovered this "unofficial" site.

Regardless of the reasons people have only recently started to post it certainly doesn't make their opinion any less valid.
VB

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by VonBlade

Maybe, just maybe, they are people who've only recently gone out to purchase a submarine simulation and are finding the problems with it a suitable cause for complaint.

Maybe not all of us have been here since the dawn of time playing SH1.

Maybe they've only just discovered this "unofficial" site.

Regardless of the reasons people have only recently started to post it certainly doesn't make their opinion any less valid.
VB

And all newcomers are very welcome, VonBlade. There is a huge varirty of topics relating to SH4 to discuss here and also a very good modding community, but if a member's beef is with Ubisoft then he or she should take the issue to them. As I said in my original post, nobody on this site is authorized to speak for Ubisoft.

[daft]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

And all newcomers are very welcome, VonBlade. There is a huge varirty of topics relating to SH4 to discuss here and also a very good modding community, but if a member's beef is with Ubisoft then he or she should take the issue to them. As I said in my original post, nobody on this site is authorized to speak for Ubisoft.

I couldn't agree more. I fully understand the frustration some people feel when playing SH4, it does undoubtedly have bugs. However, I would suggest that they either choose to stick with the game, help out with the bug reporting or take up their complaints with Ubi directly as TDK suggests above. Because we honestly don't need more gripe threads at this point. I've always considered Subsim to be the best forum for discussion on tactics, tips or just plain sharing of experiences. Now it seems as if every other thread is started in order for posters to point fingers at Ubi.

I actually enjoy the game as it is. It's not perfect, but it is hugely entertaining and immersive. As I said, I understand where the complaints are coming from, but I think it is time you take it up with Ubi, your local CA or simply shelf the game and find something better to play.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by VonBlade

Regardless of the reasons people have only recently started to post it certainly doesn't make their opinion any less valid.

Basic forum ettiquette is to not create a new topic when there's an existing one that deals with the same thing.

The people with gripes with the game can gripe all they want as far as I'm concerned, but it's annoying and rude to have to scroll through 100 threads all dealing with the same thing. I think that's where a lot of the animosity comes from.

[Avatar]

I dont like the bugs either, but after seeing what GWX did to sh3 we can only hope for the best for sh4. Even with frame rates, when GWX1.03 came out was a major improvement for sh3. Let's hope for the best when it comes to sh4.
I guess the solution is have a company come out with a game, then have the community fix it. Only problem is that the community doesnt get paid!
I have a mid-range computer and GWX1.03 works like a dream.

For those who dont like whining, you dont have to listen.

[Meridian]

Originally Posted by bwchaney

you gripers disgust me. I updated my computer just for this game and has it been worth it, you bet it has. If you sample the mods that have been made and the two patches so far you cam make SH4 whatever you want. It plays great on my machine and I'm sure on other peoples as well. I wish you people would not exaggerate the negatives and start accentuating the positives. you really make me sick. Devildog

Yep, and it's people like you who accept the below standard tripe they are fed that allows software houses to keep getting away with it.

If everyone on this forum kept there mouths shut and didn't point out all these faults do you honestly think you would have seen a 1.2 patch?

Hey, but if you're happy with the sim the way it is I guess you won't be installing a 1.3 patch if there is one....will ya.

[Bando]

Originally Posted by bwchaney

you gripers disgust me. I updated my computer just for this game and has it been worth it, you bet it has. If you sample the mods that have been made and the two patches so far you cam make SH4 whatever you want. It plays great on my machine and I'm sure on other peoples as well. I wish you people would not exaggerate the negatives and start accentuating the positives. you really make me sick. Devildog

I agree!!!!!!!

[ReallyDedPoet]

Agree with Ducimus on this one , this thread needs to go.

RDP

[TDK1044]

I think we're done here. Closing thread.