Is my sub made of lead?

U-Bones · 05-05-07, 08:07 AM

Welcome to the most infuriating bugs in the game.

!. Undisplayed flooding.
2. Water inside the boat is 10 x heavier that water outside the boat.

Iron Budokan · 05-05-07, 03:04 PM

Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. If the game displayed flooding I'm sure it would show you were awash in sea water up to your necks in several compartments. Too bad the game doesn't show us this, but I guess it "remembers" it and that's why you can't come up.

I don't know that's a bug, though. I just don't think this was ever implemented by the devs. Would've been nice.

Deep6 · 05-05-07, 04:18 PM

You did not leave Bernard in charge of shutting the hatch did you?

FAdmiral · 05-05-07, 04:25 PM

In all my testing of SH4, I have never had the damage control bug everyone
seems to post about. I have taken damage many times to all areas and once
fixed, I can dive just like I did before the damage. There was one post here
about memory being a factor. I don't know about that one cause I use 3gigs of Ram. Could this be another example of the dreaded "Bad Install" ???

JIM

ccruner13 · 05-05-07, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. If the game displayed flooding I'm sure it would show you were awash in sea water up to your necks in several compartments. Too bad the game doesn't show us this, but I guess it "remembers" it and that's why you can't come up.

I don't know that's a bug, though. I just don't think this was ever implemented by the devs. Would've been nice.

it definitely shows flooding...the little boxes for each compartment fill up with blue. its just you dont get better after the blue gets pumped out...i think?

mayandlex · 05-05-07, 05:22 PM

Just a stray thought, a hole in the top of the ballast tanks would flood them without flooding in the pressure hull, any air blown into the tanks would simply escape. That could explain your predicament.

Fitz505 · 05-05-07, 06:27 PM

I'm a little dubious that the sim is that detailed. I've pretty much resorted to just dealing with the quirks. About the only thing that has me baffled is why the dev's just don't create a pdf. explaining how the various systems operate in detail and if something doesn't work as expected and it's not easily fixable or your not just going to fix it, just tell me.
John

FIREWALL · 05-05-07, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ccruner13

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. If the game displayed flooding I'm sure it would show you were awash in sea water up to your necks in several compartments. Too bad the game doesn't show us this, but I guess it "remembers" it and that's why you can't come up.

I don't know that's a bug, though. I just don't think this was ever implemented by the devs. Would've been nice.

it definitely shows flooding...the little boxes for each compartment fill up with blue. its just you dont get better after the blue gets pumped out...i think?

I'll have to check that out. Never noticed any boxes with blue. Just red.

SteamWake · 05-05-07, 07:49 PM

In the damage control screen. At the top of each compartment.

It fills with light blue as it floods.

In fact you can hover the cursor over the compartment to get the flooding "time" and damage status.

Undoucumented yes... but its there.

goof · 05-05-07, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

In the damage control screen. At the top of each compartment.

It fills with light blue as it floods.

In fact you can hover the cursor over the compartment to get the flooding "time" and damage status.

Undoucumented yes... but its there.

Aye, I've seen real flooding. Seen it stopped and pumped out.

But in the above case I had no reported flooding, no reported hull or bulkhead damage.

I don't see it being a bad install. The game has only crashed on me once and that's because I tried doing to much multi-tasking while cruising into Pearl.

SteamWake · 05-05-07, 10:03 PM

Well the damage reporting is a bit suspect.

There have been reports of a boat suddenly crushing with no damage at all.

The majority of these have been traced back to "saves" while submerged.

05-05-07, 03:04 PM	#2
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. If the game displayed flooding I'm sure it would show you were awash in sea water up to your necks in several compartments. Too bad the game doesn't show us this, but I guess it "remembers" it and that's why you can't come up. I don't know that's a bug, though. I just don't think this was ever implemented by the devs. Would've been nice. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

05-05-07, 04:18 PM	#3
Deep6 Gunner Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 95 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	You did not leave Bernard in charge of shutting the hatch did you? __________________ Let\'s play Hide and Seek\'n\'Destroy!

05-05-07, 04:25 PM	#4
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	In all my testing of SH4, I have never had the damage control bug everyone seems to post about. I have taken damage many times to all areas and once fixed, I can dive just like I did before the damage. There was one post here about memory being a factor. I don't know about that one cause I use 3gigs of Ram. Could this be another example of the dreaded "Bad Install" ??? JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

05-05-07, 08:07 AM	#1
U-Bones Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Treading Water Posts: 847 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Welcome to the most infuriating bugs in the game. !. Undisplayed flooding. 2. Water inside the boat is 10 x heavier that water outside the boat.

05-05-07, 05:22 PM	#6
mayandlex A-ganger Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 74 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	Just a stray thought, a hole in the top of the ballast tanks would flood them without flooding in the pressure hull, any air blown into the tanks would simply escape. That could explain your predicament.

05-05-07, 06:27 PM	#7
Fitz505 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 10 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	I'm a little dubious that the sim is that detailed. I've pretty much resorted to just dealing with the quirks. About the only thing that has me baffled is why the dev's just don't create a pdf. explaining how the various systems operate in detail and if something doesn't work as expected and it's not easily fixable or your not just going to fix it, just tell me. John

05-05-07, 07:49 PM	#9
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	In the damage control screen. At the top of each compartment. It fills with light blue as it floods. In fact you can hover the cursor over the compartment to get the flooding "time" and damage status. Undoucumented yes... but its there.

05-05-07, 10:03 PM	#11
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well the damage reporting is a bit suspect. There have been reports of a boat suddenly crushing with no damage at all. The majority of these have been traced back to "saves" while submerged.