Replace time compression with "Jump to"

darkfin · 05-03-07, 11:52 AM

I just wish we had the option to end the patrol like in SH3. Surface, nothing around, hit escape and end patrol. If I get an hour to spend on SH4 it gripes me to use it TC'ing my way back to port. This way if someone wanted to use it they could, and if not, happy sailing.

heartc · 05-03-07, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by darkfin

I just wish we had the option to end the patrol like in SH3. Surface, nothing around, hit escape and end patrol. If I get an hour to spend on SH4 it gripes me to use it TC'ing my way back to port. This way if someone wanted to use it they could, and if not, happy sailing.

Yep, that would help, too. I just don't have so much time on my hands everyday, so I often find myself not firing up SHIV at all, cause I know to get some enjoyment and have a somewhat meaningful session I would have to invest a maybe inappropriate amount of time. The load times don't help either, though I'm low on RAM, so that is partly my own fault, partly I've read from other people with better setups that they also have close to 10 minutes load times in longer patrols though.

Egan · 05-03-07, 01:45 PM

I probably wouldn't have bought it if the campaign had been limited to a set of maps and random encounters - this was fine for SH1 but one of the things that has struck me quite often from reading about the PTO sub war (and the U-Boat campaign as well infact) was the actual risk involved in getting to a lot of the patrol areas in the first place - Squeezing through choke points like the Lombok straight and so on.

Hopefully, once the Ops-Mod thing we are working on just now is finished the whole patrol will be a challenge rather than just the objectives which i've always looked on as being the middle of a good story rather than the whole thing.

Anyways, I think what you are wanting is probably doable to a certain extent by altering the coords at which you start out of harbour but a external program in the SHcommander mould would probably be needed so that those coords could be specifically tied to the various objectives. Afterall, there is little point in doing this if your start point was going to be Honshu whilst tasked with a recon mission in the South China sea. As for ending the patrol at sea and being teleported home, that I don't know but I imagine the code for this from Sh3 is buried in there somewhere.

heartc · 05-03-07, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Egan

Anyways, I think what you are wanting is probably doable to a certain extent by altering the coords at which you start out of harbour but a external program in the SHcommander mould would probably be needed so that those coords could be specifically tied to the various objectives. Afterall, there is little point in doing this if your start point was going to be Honshu whilst tasked with a recon mission in the South China sea. As for ending the patrol at sea and being teleported home, that I don't know but I imagine the code for this from Sh3 is buried in there somewhere.

Yeah. I've just about figured out now what I'll do and try. Ducimus has found out how to alter those coordinates for his International Dateline Torpedo track fix some time ago. They are in upcdata/upccampaigndata/flotillas.upc.

So what I will do for now is once I know my assigned patrol area, I will alt-tab out of the game, open the SHIV mission editor (I hope this program can run parallel to SHIV lol - if not I need to preplan and write out starting coords for all patrol areas), decide on where I want to start by moving the mouse over the point, noting the coords, open the shortcut to flotillas.upc on my desktop, and change the "outside harbor" coords accordingly. This should work. Maybe I have to revert to the main menue before alt-tabing out of SHIV, in case this file is already loaded as soon as you enter a career game.
I haven't tested this yet but will try as soon as I return from my current patrol.

heartc · 05-03-07, 02:37 PM

Important: To anyone who is reading this and also wants to try that approach, you need to note down the coordinates shown in the most left corner in the bottom of the SHIV mission editor window. The coordinates further to the right are in degrees, as you would expect them on maps, but flotillas.upc works with the left ones.

05-03-07, 01:45 PM	#3
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I probably wouldn't have bought it if the campaign had been limited to a set of maps and random encounters - this was fine for SH1 but one of the things that has struck me quite often from reading about the PTO sub war (and the U-Boat campaign as well infact) was the actual risk involved in getting to a lot of the patrol areas in the first place - Squeezing through choke points like the Lombok straight and so on. Hopefully, once the Ops-Mod thing we are working on just now is finished the whole patrol will be a challenge rather than just the objectives which i've always looked on as being the middle of a good story rather than the whole thing. Anyways, I think what you are wanting is probably doable to a certain extent by altering the coords at which you start out of harbour but a external program in the SHcommander mould would probably be needed so that those coords could be specifically tied to the various objectives. Afterall, there is little point in doing this if your start point was going to be Honshu whilst tasked with a recon mission in the South China sea. As for ending the patrol at sea and being teleported home, that I don't know but I imagine the code for this from Sh3 is buried in there somewhere. Last edited by Egan; 05-03-07 at 03:36 PM.

05-03-07, 02:37 PM	#5
heartc Samurai Navy Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Munich Posts: 562 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	Important: To anyone who is reading this and also wants to try that approach, you need to note down the coordinates shown in the most left corner in the bottom of the SHIV mission editor window. The coordinates further to the right are in degrees, as you would expect them on maps, but flotillas.upc works with the left ones. Last edited by heartc; 05-03-07 at 03:13 PM.

05-03-07, 11:52 AM	#1
darkfin Loader Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sneaking up on a carrier Posts: 83 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	I just wish we had the option to end the patrol like in SH3. Surface, nothing around, hit escape and end patrol. If I get an hour to spend on SH4 it gripes me to use it TC'ing my way back to port. This way if someone wanted to use it they could, and if not, happy sailing.