They just don't build them like that anymore

Tchocky · 05-01-07, 04:52 PM

The faster technology changes, the shorter the lifespan of each item.

Our family had one TV for 20 years, and damn if the new HD one isn't beautiful

STEED · 05-01-07, 04:55 PM

Next door got a digital TV and it broke down in less than a month and three days after it was repaired. That was last week, I must find out how it is now.

Heibges · 05-01-07, 05:50 PM

The whole HD thing is so up in the air, that I have been hesitant to buy one. It seems crazy spending that much on a tv.

I do know that the Adult Video Industry has said that HDDVD will be their standard and not Blueray. The AVI selected VHS back in the day, and this killed Betamax.

bradclark1 · 05-02-07, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Heibges

The whole HD thing is so up in the air, that I have been hesitant to buy one. It seems crazy spending that much on a tv.

I do know that the Adult Video Industry has said that HDDVD will be their standard and not Blueray. The AVI selected VHS back in the day, and this killed Betamax.

I was the same way but I got our HDTV given to us as a gift and have to say WOW!
I don't normally watch TV but the wife does. Even digital is great on these things. The nature shows are incredible. Now we couldn't go back to a normal tv.

Skybird · 05-02-07, 10:15 AM

I have a hair/beard trimmer with accu-batteries which cannot be replaced. the motor and the blades are still working like on first day (5 years ago), but the accus are dead. I need to replace the whole device because the batteries not being replacable. Most hair trimmers, if not all, are like that. throwing a fully functional device into the bin - for nothing. Stupid.

I still have the WM1 by Sony, the very first walkman ever available on the market, that was in 1982 or 83. Full metal case, solid manufacturing, very good and robust quality. It still works very well. Two other walkman me and my parents tried in later years were made of plastic, were light like TT-balls, and didn't live very long.

My parents also happen to own the first disc player by Sony from the mid-80s, still fully functionable, and the size of a discman. Again, solid manufacturing, metal case, and quite some weight.

If you look at devices today you fear to brake them by simply pressing the play-button.

I am extremely hesitent to buy HD-TV. If the picture is not received as an HD-signal, then LCD -TV simply have a terrible picture quality, compared to classical cathode-ray monitors. And the two major TV stations in Germany still wait to invest into HD-technology. they got burned twice in the past, with PAL+ and some other norm that was said to be the future, and then died. I also think the prices for these things are ridiculous, even more so if considering the constantly shrinking lifespan of consumer elctronics today. You pay more and more money for gimmicks you never missed before, and constantly detoriating quality (time to break-down).

I don't like all this. It stinks. I am still operating a VHs alongside a DVD player, I plan to avoid HD as long as possible, and will try to get a classical cathode-widescreen TV next time (which is becoming difficult for many screen-sizes, unfortunately). Major parts of my music librarary still are cassettes, and I feel lucky for having used quality tapes back then. Newer does not mean better today. In the majority of cases I think it is exactly the other way around. But of course, life is becoming faster and faster nevertheless. that's why more and more people becoming ill from living the modenr life.

It seems to me there is only one thing a reasonable man can do these days: find something that is his own, and detach his life from the growing madness and hectic all around. I feel thankful towards life, for having been able to do so. It comes at a price (some ammount of isolation, caused by lacking understanding of most others), but it still is a fair deal and a positive bilance. Else I would live in constant anger, and at the end of each day I would leave a smoking battlefield behind me.

bradclark1 · 05-02-07, 12:20 PM

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am extremely hesitent to buy HD-TV. If the picture is not received as an HD-signal, then LCD -TV simply have a terrible picture quality,

You have a choice of analog or digital reception for cable. Normal cable is analog. If you use analog with a HDTV you wasted your money. Digital gives a much improved (awesome)picture. HD and digital are two different things price-wise however, but you can't get HD without the digital receiver.

STEED · 05-02-07, 12:44 PM

My radio has died on me, well it was cheap and old.

Yahoshua · 05-01-07, 05:50 PM

Technology itself dosn't induce a shorter lifespan, greed does. A constant rate of breakdowns in products will practically guarantee a continuous production run of a particular product. While on the face of it, this isn't a very appreciative motive, but it does spur the drive for better quality products that are sure to be bought by an all too willing consumer base.

It's a consumer/throwaway society at work.

Heibges · 05-01-07, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

Technology itself dosn't induce a shorter lifespan, greed does. A constant rate of breakdowns in products will practically guarantee a continuous production run of a particular product. While on the face of it, this isn't a very appreciative motive, but it does spur the drive for better quality products that are sure to be bought by an all too willing consumer base.

It's a consumer/throwaway society at work.

That's what I think too. Shoddy workmanship is part of their "business plan".

Yahoshua · 05-01-07, 06:00 PM

Yeah, but that's slowly starting to change as foreign companies begin to eat up the territory of U.S. companies and drive the companies to actually produce better products that will outlast their competitors' products.

A prime example is the automotive industry. Toyota, Honda, Suzuki and other companies are taking territory from all of the domestic automotive companies (save for pickup trucks) as their quality outstrips that of the domestic produced vehicles. And it shows that people are willing to pay the extra dollars for a better quality product that will last them at least 15-20 years than for a product that will only last 10 years before it break down completely.

I own a toyota made in 1985 and it's still keeps goin (although it's designed badly, that's another issue).

JSLTIGER · 05-01-07, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

I own a toyota made in 1985 and it's still keeps goin (although it's designed badly, that's another issue).

I love my '93 Corolla LE...just a well designed, well built car.

Yahoshua · 05-01-07, 06:26 PM

Not real familiar with corollas'. Are they a reliable company?

Heibges · 05-01-07, 06:27 PM

I guess we better hope the Korean TV makers, force the Japanese TV makers to do a better job.

Isn't there a Eurpean company that makes TV's now?

05-01-07, 04:52 PM	#1
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The faster technology changes, the shorter the lifespan of each item. Our family had one TV for 20 years, and damn if the new HD one isn't beautiful __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

05-01-07, 04:55 PM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Next door got a digital TV and it broke down in less than a month and three days after it was repaired. That was last week, I must find out how it is now. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

05-01-07, 05:50 PM	#3
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	The whole HD thing is so up in the air, that I have been hesitant to buy one. It seems crazy spending that much on a tv. I do know that the Adult Video Industry has said that HDDVD will be their standard and not Blueray. The AVI selected VHS back in the day, and this killed Betamax. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

05-02-07, 10:15 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,680 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I have a hair/beard trimmer with accu-batteries which cannot be replaced. the motor and the blades are still working like on first day (5 years ago), but the accus are dead. I need to replace the whole device because the batteries not being replacable. Most hair trimmers, if not all, are like that. throwing a fully functional device into the bin - for nothing. Stupid. I still have the WM1 by Sony, the very first walkman ever available on the market, that was in 1982 or 83. Full metal case, solid manufacturing, very good and robust quality. It still works very well. Two other walkman me and my parents tried in later years were made of plastic, were light like TT-balls, and didn't live very long. My parents also happen to own the first disc player by Sony from the mid-80s, still fully functionable, and the size of a discman. Again, solid manufacturing, metal case, and quite some weight. If you look at devices today you fear to brake them by simply pressing the play-button. I am extremely hesitent to buy HD-TV. If the picture is not received as an HD-signal, then LCD -TV simply have a terrible picture quality, compared to classical cathode-ray monitors. And the two major TV stations in Germany still wait to invest into HD-technology. they got burned twice in the past, with PAL+ and some other norm that was said to be the future, and then died. I also think the prices for these things are ridiculous, even more so if considering the constantly shrinking lifespan of consumer elctronics today. You pay more and more money for gimmicks you never missed before, and constantly detoriating quality (time to break-down). I don't like all this. It stinks. I am still operating a VHs alongside a DVD player, I plan to avoid HD as long as possible, and will try to get a classical cathode-widescreen TV next time (which is becoming difficult for many screen-sizes, unfortunately). Major parts of my music librarary still are cassettes, and I feel lucky for having used quality tapes back then. Newer does not mean better today. In the majority of cases I think it is exactly the other way around. But of course, life is becoming faster and faster nevertheless. that's why more and more people becoming ill from living the modenr life. It seems to me there is only one thing a reasonable man can do these days: find something that is his own, and detach his life from the growing madness and hectic all around. I feel thankful towards life, for having been able to do so. It comes at a price (some ammount of isolation, caused by lacking understanding of most others), but it still is a fair deal and a positive bilance. Else I would live in constant anger, and at the end of each day I would leave a smoking battlefield behind me. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-02-07, 12:44 PM	#7
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	My radio has died on me, well it was cheap and old. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

05-01-07, 05:50 PM	#8
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Technology itself dosn't induce a shorter lifespan, greed does. A constant rate of breakdowns in products will practically guarantee a continuous production run of a particular product. While on the face of it, this isn't a very appreciative motive, but it does spur the drive for better quality products that are sure to be bought by an all too willing consumer base. It's a consumer/throwaway society at work. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

05-01-07, 06:00 PM	#10
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, but that's slowly starting to change as foreign companies begin to eat up the territory of U.S. companies and drive the companies to actually produce better products that will outlast their competitors' products. A prime example is the automotive industry. Toyota, Honda, Suzuki and other companies are taking territory from all of the domestic automotive companies (save for pickup trucks) as their quality outstrips that of the domestic produced vehicles. And it shows that people are willing to pay the extra dollars for a better quality product that will last them at least 15-20 years than for a product that will only last 10 years before it break down completely. I own a toyota made in 1985 and it's still keeps goin (although it's designed badly, that's another issue). __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

05-01-07, 06:26 PM	#12
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Not real familiar with corollas'. Are they a reliable company? __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

05-01-07, 06:27 PM	#13
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I guess we better hope the Korean TV makers, force the Japanese TV makers to do a better job. Isn't there a Eurpean company that makes TV's now? __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/