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clayton · 04-29-07, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

jmjohnson36 · 04-29-07, 09:56 PM

Addressing my Ranger tab...and my rank is a different issue...LOL dont confuse my commitment to modding versus my ability as a soldier.

l3th4l · 04-29-07, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chock

Strictly speaking, if you make a mod for the game and it uses no original part of the game (i.e. you create an entirely new engine sound for the sim from scratch or similar) then it is yours, not UBISOFT's.

Sure, people could use it with a UBISOFT product, but that wouldn't mean it belonged to them.

It's a differnet matter it you mod an original file of course. But...

All your base are NOT belong to us.

And even if you used original data the mod is not property of ubisoft. sure, they could sue you for using and redistributing copyrighted material but ownership of your work doesn't fall to them automatically. You own the modifications you made, unless, of course, it's done as contract work or something...

clayton · 04-29-07, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

Addressing my Ranger tab...and my rank is a different issue...LOL dont confuse my commitment to modding versus my ability as a soldier.

Got it!

clayton · 04-29-07, 10:20 PM

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THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

nvdrifter, did you want me to delete this post?

U-Bones · 04-29-07, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by clayton

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

nvdrifter, did you want me to delete this post?

Interesting that the politics of hate surface in a gaming board.

clayton · 04-29-07, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

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Originally Posted by clayton

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

nvdrifter, did you want me to delete this post?

If you want.

I'll delete it in 24 hours.

I have to get some sleep because in five hours I've got to get up and put on the uniform.

I will never download your work again.

Boris · 04-29-07, 10:53 PM

Bloody hell, talk about things getting out of hand.

Jmjohnson is not a criminal, even if he did (and of course he didn't) release mods without credit to previous modders.

The only thing he is guilty of is perhaps not being thourough enough. But this is just splitting hairs. Nvdrifter, you're acting as if this is high treason. I'm sure Jmjohnson had no malicious intent with in shortcomings in crediting. No need to come down on him like a ton of bricks, especially if he is a stranger to the unwritten social protocol of the modder.

04-29-07, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by clayton

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

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Originally Posted by clayton

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

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Originally Posted by clayton

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

nvdrifter, did you want me to delete this post?

If you want.

I'll delete it in 24 hours.

I have to get some sleep because in five hours I've got to get up and put on the uniform.

I will never download your work again.

I have decided to stop releasing SH4 mods and tweak files to this community because I don't agree with a lot of the attitudes in this forum. I don't hate anybody here. Just tired of the crap.

perisher · 04-29-07, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

Bloody hell, talk about things getting out of hand.

Yes, indeed.

This thread will make anyone who is thinking of trying his hand at modding think twice.

U-Bones · 04-29-07, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

Bloody hell, talk about things getting out of hand.

Jmjohnson is not a criminal, even if he did (and of course he didn't) release mods without credit to previous modders.

The only thing he is guilty of is perhaps not being thourough enough. But this is just splitting hairs. Nvdrifter, you're acting as if this is high treason. I'm sure Jmjohnson had no malicious intent with in shortcomings in crediting. No need to come down on him like a ton of bricks, especially if he is a stranger to the unwritten social protocol of the modder.

speaking of social protocol... for someone so sensitive about getting respect, remarkably little was given to others. I for one was offended by the facist America comment. I can't help that I was born here, or that I like it here. So piss off if you think I should feel guilty about it - I don't.

I could spend days debating which couhtries were and are more facist than others, and could probably argue multiple sides pretty well, but it's not the expected behavior here.

IMO nvdrifter was just in a snit (again) because he has not been getting the genuflections he felt he deserved, not because he respected anyone elses work.

Too bad the bile spewed out.

NefariousKoel · 04-29-07, 11:47 PM

The modding forums aren't a great place to call Americans a bunch of Fascists.

Perhaps you can take your attitude to General Discussion Nv? Thanks.

CaptainCox · 04-30-07, 12:01 AM

WHAT THE H..L happened here while I was asleep, its a darn shame this whole business. We all love the franchise and we all love to mod it, but for some odd reason ppl are going stark raving mad! doing it, maybe its something in the code that triggers it.

I sort a missed the prelude to this, but reading through this thread I am at a total loss of understanding... Is this all about someone forgetting to mention someones name? ppl forget you know, and that don't make him bad or? Is it really that important, I mean THAT IMPORTANT! so you guys will go off sulking just cause you think someone (maybe 2-3 guys) might actually think someone else did the work other then you ( I am talking in general terms here).

Everyone that hangs around here know what GWX is and who did what, every one knows Beery and what he did, and believe me...nvdrifter is also a pretty known household name here at Sumsim's...There will be no misconceptions as to who took who's glory I think. Cause that's what this is about right?..glory. Men will be men...and the change to humans is still ongoing in this case, like in the real world.

Camaero · 04-30-07, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

The modding forums aren't a great place to call Americans a bunch of Fascists.

Perhaps you can take your attitude to General Discussion Nv? Thanks.

Yes.

So I guess all the modders are quitting now?

To all modders: There are a lot of people who appreciate your work, why would you let those who don't, ruin things for everyone else? Surely no one should lay down because of a few people critical of their work.

CaptainCox · 04-30-07, 12:13 AM

Stupid pride...that is what this is. Again a very manly thing...

04-29-07, 09:56 PM	#17
jmjohnson36 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kansas City, KS Posts: 203 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	ouch Addressing my Ranger tab...and my rank is a different issue...LOL dont confuse my commitment to modding versus my ability as a soldier. __________________ "Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud."~If I was President...Iran would have a nuke...they just wouldnt like the delivery method... <AHREF="http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=120621"_blank">JSGME Quick Reference</A> Major US ARMY RANGERS 1985-2003

04-29-07, 11:47 PM	#27
NefariousKoel Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: No-good Missouri scum Posts: 1,223 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The modding forums aren't a great place to call Americans a bunch of Fascists. Perhaps you can take your attitude to General Discussion Nv? Thanks. __________________ "When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different." - Jack Handey

04-30-07, 12:01 AM	#28
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	WHAT THE H..L happened here while I was asleep, its a darn shame this whole business. We all love the franchise and we all love to mod it, but for some odd reason ppl are going stark raving mad! doing it, maybe its something in the code that triggers it. I sort a missed the prelude to this, but reading through this thread I am at a total loss of understanding... Is this all about someone forgetting to mention someones name? ppl forget you know, and that don't make him bad or? Is it really that important, I mean THAT IMPORTANT! so you guys will go off sulking just cause you think someone (maybe 2-3 guys) might actually think someone else did the work other then you ( I am talking in general terms here). Everyone that hangs around here know what GWX is and who did what, every one knows Beery and what he did, and believe me...nvdrifter is also a pretty known household name here at Sumsim's...There will be no misconceptions as to who took who's glory I think. Cause that's what this is about right?..glory. Men will be men...and the change to humans is still ongoing in this case, like in the real world. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

04-30-07, 12:13 AM	#30
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Stupid pride...that is what this is. Again a very manly thing... __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

04-29-07, 10:53 PM	#23
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Bloody hell, talk about things getting out of hand. Jmjohnson is not a criminal, even if he did (and of course he didn't) release mods without credit to previous modders. The only thing he is guilty of is perhaps not being thourough enough. But this is just splitting hairs. Nvdrifter, you're acting as if this is high treason. I'm sure Jmjohnson had no malicious intent with in shortcomings in crediting. No need to come down on him like a ton of bricks, especially if he is a stranger to the unwritten social protocol of the modder.