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Old 04-29-07, 09:15 AM   #1
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What I'm reciting is the track record we have and asking for a neutral source on this story. What I haven't said is that it isn't true. WSJ op eds are an eyesblink lower than the average blog in quality. That doesn't mean the story isn't right but it does mean I'm going to be skeptical until shown I've no reason to be.
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Old 04-29-07, 09:47 AM   #2
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What I'm reciting is the track record we have and asking for a neutral source on this story. What I haven't said is that it isn't true. WSJ op eds are an eyesblink lower than the average blog in quality. That doesn't mean the story isn't right but it does mean I'm going to be skeptical until shown I've no reason to be.
Yet you seem to not be the least skeptical about Skybird's quote. And what does that hint about your impartiality? You're more transparent than you appear.
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Old 04-29-07, 10:27 AM   #3
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Yes, because the media which is considered (whether or not one thinks they deserve it much of the time) mainstream and reliable has focused on Wolfowitz's actions with his girlfriend and it does look very, very, shady. Don't you think so? Maybe I'm a sucker who's falling for an evil international conspiracy being run by greedy European powers, and if that's so I'd rather know sooner than later, but an editorial from the pages of the WSJ isn't going to really help me out in that regard. They've close to zero credibility in my book.
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Yes, because the media which is considered (whether or not one thinks they deserve it much of the time) mainstream and reliable has focused on Wolfowitz's actions with his girlfriend and it does look very, very, shady. Don't you think so?
Sounds like something out of People Magazine.

MAybe you'd like to chase down the WSJ editorial from 2 weeks ago mentioned in this piece I linked to today, that states:

"The noisy leaking and staff protests are aimed at getting Mr. Wolfowitz to make their life easy by resigning. But that would only validate their campaign to oust him for giving his girlfriend a raise that the bank's own ethics committee advised him to deliver after he had tried to recuse himself. Since our editorial reported on all of these "ethics" details two weeks ago, no one has even tried to dispute our facts. The critics have shifted to a new line that, because his "credibility" has been damaged by these selective smears, Mr. Wolfowitz must now resign "for the good of the bank."

Is that true or false? Do you know? If it is true, it does look very, very, shady indeed. Don't you think so?
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Maybe I'm a sucker who's falling for an evil international conspiracy being run by greedy European powers, and if that's so I'd rather know sooner than later, but an editorial from the pages of the WSJ isn't going to really help me out in that regard. They've close to zero credibility in my book.
I have the same opinion of people who can't do anything better than smear those they shudder to think might actually know the facts.
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Maybe you'd like to chase down the WSJ editorial from 2 weeks ago
Never mind. I did it for you: The Wolfowitz Files.
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Maybe you'd like to chase down the WSJ editorial from 2 weeks ago
Never mind. I did it for you: The Wolfowitz Files.
I'm afraid you wasted your time AL.

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Maybe you'd like to chase down the WSJ editorial from 2 weeks ago
Never mind. I did it for you: The Wolfowitz Files.
I'm afraid you wasted your time AL.

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WSJ isn't going to really help me out in that regard. They've close to zero credibility in my book.
I post for other open minded people here, not just to those I reply to.

UPDATE: A tale of 2 scandals. Heh.
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