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Old 04-24-07, 11:27 AM   #16
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At least you brits and americans have gradfathers/fathers who fought against an external enemy. For us here in Spain, the "recent" history is one of civil war My two grandfathers fought in the civil war, but each one on a different side Who of them earned the desk for me?
obviously the one that fought for the nationalists, the commies would have used to desks to create huge statutes of Marx and Lenin.....
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Old 04-25-07, 02:36 AM   #17
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At least you brits and americans have gradfathers/fathers who fought against an external enemy. For us here in Spain, the "recent" history is one of civil war My two grandfathers fought in the civil war, but each one on a different side Who of them earned the desk for me?
obviously the one that fought for the nationalists, the commies would have used to desks to create huge statutes of Marx and Lenin.....
You gotta admit that those statues are pretty wicked looking.:p
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Old 04-25-07, 02:38 AM   #18
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You know what would have been more effective?

Bring the kids to school in Volkswagen Beetles, make them sit at desks made in Nazi Germany, and force them to speak a bizarre combination of German, Arabic, Italian, Japanese, and English. Anyone who fails to comply gets a rifle butt to the forehead courtesy of Prince Charles.

Less theatrics, more dramatics, I say!

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Old 04-26-07, 12:10 AM   #19
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what a silly thread
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Old 04-26-07, 12:21 AM   #20
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You know what would have been more effective?

Bring the kids to school in Volkswagen Beetles, make them sit at desks made in Nazi Germany, and force them to speak a bizarre combination of German, Arabic, Italian, Japanese, and English. Anyone who fails to comply gets a rifle butt to the forehead courtesy of Prince Charles.

Less theatrics, more dramatics, I say!

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It needn't be.
Remind anyone of that university study where students played as guards and inmates? As I recall the experiment ended early when those playing the guards started to take their assigned roles too far and became dangerously aggressive.

Good proof of the capabilities of people under those conditions.
As it goes: "Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely."
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Old 04-26-07, 01:13 PM   #21
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That was a retarded example. Let me tell you what would have been better.

In 7th grade (~12yro), I had this wheelchair-bound instructor for "home room". Some kind of auto accident. Anyway, she had these little report chits she kept on record. "Making unecessary noise", speaking without being called on (which included whispering), not having an assignment, not putting your name and number (everyone had a number) on your paper. All of these things violated her code, and you got a mark on your report chit. Some were only 1/4 of a mark, some were 1/2 mark, bad ones 2 marks. Get 9 or 10 marks and you got the paddle (one kid ended up getting the paddle). And she had some kind of reward system if you went all "9 weeks" or semester without a mark.

Now, by the middle of the school year, most were feeling the pressure. Outside that classroom, no one used her legal name -- when you heard a slew of curses which had some kind of feminine indicator, you knew by context it was this instructor to whom they were referring.

Now, at the end of the year, she should have had a load of Army, Navy, Marine, Airforce, Coast Guard guys and girls roll in there. And to her protest, they should have shredded the cards in front of her with a "confettii" shredder. Pull something like that on 10-year olds where they are tormented and cowered all year long, and the point would have been more trenchant.

For a high-school level, I'm not sure. I've got a couple ideas but not anything I am particularly keen on expressing.


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