[Req] Darker ship smoke

[Scoochy]

Concur about the funnel smoke. These aren't freight trains

Still working on the fire smoke, try to slow that suff down a bit.

[Observer]

It's a five second adjustment.

The problem is you can't easily make differences between the old coal burners and the ships burning av gas/diesel fuel without creating a new funnel smoke node (easy) and changing the opacity of the smoke between the two in the particles.dat (also easy). The new node (call it the coal smoke node) would then has to be assigned to all of the coal burning ship (i.e. the freight train above) dat files. It's a pain because it's tedious, time consuming and I'm not 100% sure it can be done correctly at this point.

The other smoke could be just a touch darker than the current version...remember the call "Smoke on the horizon!". You can't do that now with the current smoke.

By the way, the I don't think the funnel smoke differentiates between the speed of the ship (i.e. faster = darker), but I'd have to go back and check the particles.dat to be sure.

[CaptainCox]

Actually...how would one create a "second funnel node" ? over at the SH3 Workshop "privateer" is working on a "Diesel Exhaust Mod" looks very very sweet so far!
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=112123


Question is also how to adjust this so its only visible during full speed ahead and revving up the engine...

[Observer]

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

Actually...how would one create a "second funnel node" ? over at the SH3 Workshop "privateer" is working on a "Diesel Exhaust Mod" looks very very sweet so far!
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=112123


Question is also how to adjust this so its only visible during full speed ahead and revving up the engine...

The same way we created extra visual sensors for the NYGM Tonnage War Mod in SH3, and the same way I've created extra sensors for SH4, including a "Blind AI" sensor for testing because the visual sensor still works even if you NULL the setting in the SNS file. Regarding the extra node, I just have to check to see if all the pieces parts line up for the extra node. I'm not sure if/how well it will work, and I haven't spent any time on it other than to take the 5 seconds necessary to adjust the smoke opacity show in the shots above.

[CaptainCox]

Wow, OK your way beyond me so far. If you come up with something let us know, cause this "Diesel Exhaust" Mod does look the stuff.

[U-Bones]

Originally Posted by Scoochy

Concur about the funnel smoke. These aren't freight trains

Still working on the fire smoke, try to slow that suff down a bit.

To clarify, my freight train comment was in -support- of the stock stack smoke production... Big combustion engines produce big amounts of smoke, and I thnk they did a good job on the stacks. How the smoke is blown around (or left behind) after it is produced is a seperate issue.

Good start on the fire smoke, keep it up !

[Sailor Steve]

Coal-fired engines produce large quantities of smoke, especially under pressure. Oil-fired engines make quite a bit less.

[Jace11]

Can you combine this with the slower smoke mod... or have you already done that...

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Jace11

Can you combine this with the slower smoke mod... or have you already done that...

Would be good, yes.

Also, the smoke looks just a little too thick, at least for me (and I mean in-game, not screenshots). The blackness is good, but I can see the smoke sprite outlines just a little too clearly. It would be nice if it were a little more fuzzy.

[Jace11]

Oh, the particles.dat in this file looks a bit different and is smaller that 1.2 version... This 410kb while my unmodded one is 425kb??????

Is this based on 1.1? or 1.0??

Best thing would be to save us the effort of repeating what you've done, and just tell us where the bytes are that need adjusting, then we can combine it with the slow smoke mod..

[Observer]

Originally Posted by Jace11

Oh, the particles.dat in this file looks a bit different and is smaller that 1.2 version... This 410kb while my unmodded one is 425kb??????

Is this based on 1.1? or 1.0??

Best thing would be to save us the effort of repeating what you've done, and just tell us where the bytes are that need adjusting, then we can combine it with the slow smoke mod..

I'm not trying to be coy, but I'm afraid that's not possible. This effect was not achieved through normal hex editing, which also accounts for the differences in file size. I am unable and unwilling to say anything else beyond that.

[Observer]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Would be good, yes.

Also, the smoke looks just a little too thick, at least for me (and I mean in-game, not screenshots). The blackness is good, but I can see the smoke sprite outlines just a little too clearly. It would be nice if it were a little more fuzzy.

The first shot is with opacity at 0.5. The second is with opacity at 0.25. The default is 0.01. Also note there are two different "black smoke" settings attached to the funnel smoke, as well as a bunch of other stuff. I haven't examined all of the other settings for effects yet.

I think I'll dial back the opacity to 0.05 or 0.1 to see what happens.

[Observer]

Originally Posted by Jace11

Can you combine this with the slower smoke mod... or have you already done that...

Possible, but not done yet.