Boris Yeltsin is Dead

[Tchocky]

Bela Lugosi's Dead

da da, da da da etc

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6584481.stm

[SUBMAN1]

What are the bets that he was knocked off too? Everyone else is dropping like flies over there.

-S

[fatty]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

What are the bets that he was knocked off too? Everyone else is dropping like flies over there.

-S

I would be very much surprised if there was foul play. He drank heavily and had a lot of heart problems.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

What are the bets that he was knocked off too? Everyone else is dropping like flies over there.

-S

Him? By who?


What do I say as a Russian?

GOOD F@#%&NG RIDDANCE

I said the same when he stepped down on Dec 31, 1999.

The man was one of the worst leaders Russia has ever had (and given the country's history of them... what a compliment!), a criminally irresponsible president and a thug of the worst variety. Though not singlehandedly, he choked a shaky Russian democracy in its infancy and made sure it couldn't come back. He put on a face of a true progressive leader for the west - but when challenged by an elected parliament from within, he responded by sending tanks and killing deputies and protestors. He is very much responsible for the dire hardships of everyday Russians and the disastrous privatization which killed any chances of a Russian middle class and quite wittingly gave a small elite all the riches of Russia, with his own family becoming one of the richest in Russia.

I knew it'd end this way. My own wishful thinking wishes that it ended with him hanging from the end of a rope, or, as he promised "put his head on the railroad tracks if his reforms failed". Otherwise, I've no trouble admitting that had I met him in a dark alley while being armed with a gun, I would've shot the bastard on behalf of the millions of Russians he made to suffer, millions he made to leave, millions for whose unneeded deaths (by various causes) I hold him responsible. There is more blood on his hands than most people realize. It is in part his blame that I am not a Russian citizen today and refuse to become one.

Rest in shame, EBN.

[Sailor Steve]

"Boris Yeltsin's dead"

"No, no no no, he's outside, looking in"



No, wait...that was Timothy Leary.

[DanCanovas]

yeh his health was poor, no surprises here.

[joea]

CCIP, now don't be shy, tell us how you really feel.

Personally, I was shocked by the whole White House thing, and had to shake my head when I saw while channel surfing Jerry Falwell of all people praising him for allowing foreign sects into the country. Meaning Falwell's branch of Christianity.

[CCIP]

Haha, sorry for that outburst. I am a bit touchy on the subject admittably.

I can tell you a real story that illustrates my views of Yeltsin:

It was during the 1996 presidential runoffs, where Yeltsin faced off against communist candidate Zyuganov, and things did look quite precariously balanced. In the first round, my parents voted for a candidate from the Yabloko, the main liberal party in Russia - but Yabloko was already in decline then (as it had been ever since, and now, being the last surviving democratic party in the western sense, it too is already in its death throes); we also supported General Lebed (whom I consider the last potential good leader, and whose death I'll never believe was accidental) who placed 3rd in the first round of voting. It's largely thought that thanks to Lebed's agreement of support with Yeltsin, the election didn't go to the communists.

Anyway, there we were at the polling station in my school, with my parents. I was 12 at the time; the security/confidentiality wasn't too high and the attendance was unimpressive. My parents got their ballots and stood there pondering.

In the preceding couple of weeks, my maternal grandparents were agitating us to vote for Zyuganov, to bring back the "good old days". Frankly, Zyuganov was - and is - a much better politician than Yeltsin ever hoped to be. But communist. Yeltsin was as bad as they come. My parents (and I too) entirely lost faith in him in October 1993's famous quashing of the parliament. The Chechen war that he so 'gloriously' conducted convinced them that their kids, both eligible for army service in a few years time, were in danger in the country. Our immigration process to Canada had already started at that point.

So, they gave me their ballots and said this - "well, you vote." - I said "for who?"
They said - "whoever you want. Just remember, if the communists get elected, we won't be able to get out of here. If Yeltsin gets it, then we'll be in Canada in two years".

I thought for a minute and put down two x marks for Yeltzin.
Don't think I've had any faith in democracy ever since.

There you have it :hmm:

[STEED]

One thing is for sure all those Bull hearts kept him rocking into the early hours.

[Heibges]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Haha, sorry for that outburst. I am a bit touchy on the subject admittably.

I can tell you a real story that illustrates my views of Yeltsin:

It was during the 1996 presidential runoffs, where Yeltsin faced off against communist candidate Zyuganov, and things did look quite precariously balanced. In the first round, my parents voted for a candidate from the Yabloko, the main liberal party in Russia - but Yabloko was already in decline then (as it had been ever since, and now, being the last surviving democratic party in the western sense, it too is already in its death throes); we also supported General Lebed (whom I consider the last potential good leader, and whose death I'll never believe was accidental) who placed 3rd in the first round of voting. It's largely thought that thanks to Lebed's agreement of support with Yeltsin, the election didn't go to the communists.

Anyway, there we were at the polling station in my school, with my parents. I was 12 at the time; the security/confidentiality wasn't too high and the attendance was unimpressive. My parents got their ballots and stood there pondering.

In the preceding couple of weeks, my maternal grandparents were agitating us to vote for Zyuganov, to bring back the "good old days". Frankly, Zyuganov was - and is - a much better politician than Yeltsin ever hoped to be. But communist. Yeltsin was as bad as they come. My parents (and I too) entirely lost faith in him in October 1993's famous quashing of the parliament. The Chechen war that he so 'gloriously' conducted convinced them that their kids, both eligible for army service in a few years time, were in danger in the country. Our immigration process to Canada had already started at that point.

So, they gave me their ballots and said this - "well, you vote." - I said "for who?"
They said - "whoever you want. Just remember, if the communists get elected, we won't be able to get out of here. If Yeltsin gets it, then we'll be in Canada in two years".

I thought for a minute and put down two x marks for Yeltzin.
Don't think I've had any faith in democracy ever since.

There you have it :hmm:

Best anecdote ever!