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Old 04-23-07, 11:03 AM   #31
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"they are doing absolutely nothing unsafe if you study the manuvers"

"they are doign nothing to endanger themselves at all, nor the public"
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Old 04-23-07, 11:43 AM   #32
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Life is full of chances and risks. We can't live in fear and try to hide from everything that might hurt us. If the air shows are a good recruiting tool then I feel my tax dollars are being well spent, IMO. And anybody that signs up thinking that he is immune from getting into harms way is very naive and not too bright to say the least.
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Old 04-23-07, 11:55 AM   #33
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"they are doing absolutely nothing unsafe if you study the manuvers"

"they are doign nothing to endanger themselves at all, nor the public"
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They do not abusing the aircraft and doing nothing more than a motor sports type display may do. It is a ton more dangerous to watch F1, or worse, rally races in person than to watch these guys do graceful manuvers in the sky. So get over it already.

If you don't like it, go home and lock the door.

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PS. ANd by the way, I take comfort in the fact that you are in charge of nothing in this world since your ideas are a little skewed in my opinion.
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Old 04-23-07, 12:00 PM   #34
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The pilots poor family. It was his first show as a pilot, so I'm sure they were all there watching.
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Old 04-23-07, 12:03 PM   #35
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The pilots poor family. It was his first show as a pilot, so I'm sure they were all there watching.
Thats what I said - it was due to inexperience. It is terribly sad.

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Old 04-23-07, 12:24 PM   #36
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Turn your swords into plowshares.

I'll keep my sword and make you do my plowing.
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Old 04-23-07, 12:47 PM   #37
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If I was a weapons officer in the cockpit of a F-4 Phantom jet in the Vietnam war with a russian made/chinese transported/vietnam fired missile coming after me ... I sure would want a Blue Angel trained pilot in the front seat and that ain't no lie.
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Old 04-23-07, 12:49 PM   #38
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"Sigh."

Subman,

I once knew a guy, a young Belgian, doing his first oversea tour as sound technician for the joint correspondents teams for which I worked also back then, it was a British-Belgian collaboration. He was even several years younger than I was back then. He was very hot about seeing his first "adventures", he was eager to experience something "exciting", and he said that there will be a time when his professional skills (that were beyond doubt) would be really tested the first time - when they would be required to function while being under stress. Boy, he was a small kid in the body of a young man, and his big mouth was nerve-killing, all day long.

One day we passed through a little village in southeastern Anatolia, southeast of Erzurum, a mountaineous and isolated region, and it happened to have been hit by a massive artillery strike just one day before. It was one of these events the Turkish military usually referred to as "minor skirmishes with bandits" only. Not one family without dead ones, the place was shattered, all huts were ruins or heavily damaged, still smoking. Parts of a mountai had come down, blocking the road, well, what is called a road in these regions. A couple of children had lost both parents. Maybe 30 people survived, were mouring, and still under shock, sitting beside the graves that did not hold all victims, for they told us that not all bodies had been found.

It was a terrible and miserable scene. We (5 TV guys, 2 Kurdish drivers, me and three others for scouting and security) all felt depressive.

Strong-mouthed good-hearted boy from Belgium looked into some empty eyes too much on that day, he finally got a pale face, then sat down where he was and cried for hours, not doing one recording on interviews that day - his British counterpart was doing it.

The video was excluded from the longterm-docu that we were working on, instead it was sent to London and then internationally distributed for the daily news. That was in mid-96, and it was shown in Germany, and as I was told, UK, Belgium, Austria and Holland as well. Probably also other countries, I don't know.

My point is: some people will not switch on their brain and stop babble nonsens before life itself has slapped them in the face, and with force so. Lots of tough talking from you, Subman, and often so. I think you are just a fool. And I hope life will hit you in the face before you die - to teach you the difference between illusions and reality, what we wish the world to be and what it really is. Else your life would have been in vain, and you will never have been alive.

And if "go home and lock the door" is the brightest reply you can give to something, well, then you may be old in years, but still haven't grown up yet.

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Watch this video and then anybody tell me:
is such nonsens really needed...???
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Old 04-23-07, 03:43 PM   #39
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My point is: some people will not switch on their brain and stop babble nonsens before life itself has slapped them in the face, and with force so. Lots of tough talking from you, Subman, and often so. I think you are just a fool. And I hope life will hit you in the face before you die - to teach you the difference between illusions and reality, what we wish the world to be and what it really is. Else your life would have been in vain, and you will never have been alive.

And if "go home and lock the door" is the brightest reply you can give to something, well, then you may be old in years, but still haven't grown up yet.
I thought you would already know the answer to this being a phyc major and all. Life has already slapped me in the face and that is why I have become stronger from it. From what you write, it sounds more like you are writing about yourself and that you need to be the one slapped in the face with life. As they say, what doesn't kill you will make you stronger, and I have already had my fair share of near death experiences thank you very much. I understand I do not like certain things in life, but I also understand that other people may very well like them. Hunting comes to mind - I do not care to hunt, but in no way do I think my view on hunting should stop other people from doing what it is they love. That is the true mark of someone grown up incase you didn't notice. Life comes at you fast, and to stop something like you describe is complete senseless nonsense. That is the sign of someone who is far from grown up. Look in the mirror please because you describe yourself, not me.

*sigh*

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Old 04-23-07, 04:03 PM   #40
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No, not me is the point - it is YOU. Simply you. Not me, not anybody else, not the man in the moon, and not any other entity you choose as a target for simply deflecting anything being told to you. You can dance and irritate and turn it around and deceive as much as you want. It's YOU, teflon-man.

Really, your constant habit of simply recording everything somebody tells you and then exchange your name in it with his and send it all back to sender is nervekilling, tells me that you have no answers yourself, and illustrate a desperate determination of never, never letting anything getting through to you.

And I have lost completely any interest in why you are how you are. Maybe others are interested, but I am not, I have seen this dancing too often now, and it's always the same scheme. If there is a problem hiding under that, than it is your problem. Not mine, not ours, not somebody else's - YOUR problem exclusively.

Anyway, bye.
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No, not me is the point - it is YOU. Simply you. Not me, not anybody else, not the man in the moon, and not any other entity you choose as a target for simply deflecting anything being told to you. You can dance and irritate and turn it around and deceive as much as you want. It's YOU, teflon-man.

Really, your constant habit of simply recording everything somebody tells you and then exchange your name in it with his and send it all back to sender is nervekilling, tells me that you have no answers yourself, and illustrate a desperate determination of never, never letting anything getting through to you.

And I have lost completely any interest in why you are how you are. Maybe others are interested, but I am not, I have seen this dancing too often now, and it's always the same scheme. If there is a problem hiding under that, than it is your problem. Not mine, not ours, not somebody else's - YOUR problem exclusively.

Anyway, bye.
Sad. You are a very sad person. All of this is complete rubbish too. I have never once copied any person on this thread and used it as my own. Please show me otherwise. Your accusations not only are false, but I think this is how you act when proven wrong and its really pathetic. You can't seem to handle it. That is just plain sad.

I am not teflon, but it is interesting how you attack me personally when you have no other argument. That sounds similar to how you attack authors when you can't disprove them. Simple as that. Too bad you are not old enough to understand. Talk about deceit - you are the master.

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Old 04-23-07, 05:17 PM   #42
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And another illustration that my description hit the nail on top. again the pattern: picking the content of the message - replace your name as receiver with that of the original author - and send it back to him, calling his thoughts to you as your own thoughts about him.

Well, your problem.
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And another illustration that my description hit the nail on top. again the pattern: picking the content of the message - replace your name as receiver with that of the original author - and send it back to him, calling his thoughts to you as your own thoughts about him.

Well, your problem.
SHow me an example other than your personal attacks.
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Old 04-23-07, 07:23 PM   #44
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He's just baiting you Subman ... let it go. I've never had a thread closed yet and I don't want to ... back to the fighting Blue Angels.

I'm sure sorry that accident happened ... I didn't know it was his first show.
I'll pray for his replacement ... that's going to be a hard position to fill after what happen.
I'm sure a lot of men will volunteer, but it's still got to weigh heavy on a pilot to replace him knowing what happened.
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Seems like the thread could be about "NEW HABITABLE PLANET FOUND BEHIND THE MOON!" and still, after 4 posts, it would escalate to a fight. I love SubSim.

Now, pass me the popcorn.
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