Is Ubisoft / SH4 developers listening?

Vorkapitan · 04-22-07, 02:36 PM

Hi All,

I was just wondering if Ubsoft / SH4 developers are monitoring this site for bugs / issues with SH4 for their next patch? It seems rather quiet on their side unless they have been making an effort behind the scenes.

Joe

CCIP · 04-22-07, 02:44 PM

The short answer is 'yes'.

TDK1044 · 04-22-07, 02:47 PM

This site does get monitored, but to my knowledge there has been no confirmation from Ubisoft that there will be any more patches.

It's possible that we'll get patch 1.3, but don't assume that because members here identify bugs and issues that Ubisoft will therefore start work on a new patch.

FAdmiral · 04-22-07, 02:49 PM

I think SH3 was patched 5 times if I recall, 1.1,1.2,1.3,1.4,1.4b
Can anybody confirm that?

JIM

CCIP · 04-22-07, 02:51 PM

Right, fair notice. I think it's true enough that the patches depend on Ubisoft's say-so to the devs, not so much the issues themselves. I'm not sure to what extent Ubisoft is willing to extend the game's post-release support nor how much the management is aware of issues. It's good to keep raising them in a productive way, though.

The devs are normally aware, but what they can do is often bound by Ubisoft's decisions.

CCIP · 04-22-07, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FAdmiral

I think SH3 was patched 5 times if I recall, 1.1,1.2,1.3,1.4,1.4b
Can anybody confirm that?

JIM

No, there was no 1.4, only 1.4b

It came out sometime in June 2005, I believe (SHIII was also released mid-march).
I, too, think going by the SHIII experience is fair enough, and SHIV has been following about the same patching schedule so far. At this rate we might still hope for a couple more patches at 1-month intervals... (no guarantee there, though).

TDK1044 · 04-22-07, 02:52 PM

I think there were 4, with 1.4 and 1.4b being the same patch.

Ducimus · 04-22-07, 02:53 PM

Im certain the ubi developers visit this site reguarlly. Could be as often as every other day. I think its because the community is fairly knowledgable, and is normally, not irrate and a coheirant group to converse with. I woudlnt be surpised if rants and irrate threads put them off from coming here.

One thing ive learned over the years with game developers in general, is just because they're not posting or not saying anything, doesnt mean their not listening.

AJ! · 04-22-07, 03:02 PM

Im sure there will be more patches.... i would be greatly shocked and dissapointed if they stopped patching the game. There is still alot of work to be done and so many things to be added/ improved

I was impressed with the resolution fix and AA in the recent patch 1.2
The game looks beutiful now... although my frame rate is starting to suffer

At the moment i feel the best option to go on is a Xpack for the game.. Almost like the two xpacks that came out for SH3 only with more content like new rooms in the sub and better crew interaction, maybe even new subs and skins... and of course maybe even jap subs ingame

I think my heart would skip a beat if a Xpack was announced for SH4 :p

TDK1044 · 04-22-07, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

One thing ive learned over the years with game developers in general, is just because they're not posting or not saying anything, doesnt mean their not listening.

Very true. One of the Devs visits here often and has posted a few times too. The Devs don't control the production budget though. They can only patch what Ubisoft authorize them to patch.

We'll have to wait and see.

DragonRR1 · 04-22-07, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

This site does get monitored, but to my knowledge there has been no confirmation from Ubisoft that there will be any more patches.

It's possible that we'll get patch 1.3, but don't assume that because members here identify bugs and issues that Ubisoft will therefore start work on a new patch.

TDK1044 You've posted several times like this. Everything you say is correct. We don't know whether there will be a 1.3 let alone a 1.4 patch. UBI have officially said nothing about a 1.3. etc.. However you are being rather pessimistic given the fact that the game "appears" to have sold at least reasonably well and historically SH3 had 4 patches and imo wasn't as buggy as SH4 at the outset...

I guess my question is: Do you know something you aren't letting on about the chances of getting further patches?

TDK1044 · 04-22-07, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonRR1

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

This site does get monitored, but to my knowledge there has been no confirmation from Ubisoft that there will be any more patches.

It's possible that we'll get patch 1.3, but don't assume that because members here identify bugs and issues that Ubisoft will therefore start work on a new patch.

TDK1044 You've posted several times like this. Everything you say is correct. We don't know whether there will be a 1.3 let alone a 1.4 patch. UBI have officially said nothing about a 1.3. etc.. However you are being rather pessimistic given the fact that the game "appears" to have sold at least reasonably well and historically SH3 had 4 patches and imo wasn't as buggy as SH4 at the outset...

I guess my question is: Do you know something you aren't letting on about the chances of getting further patches?

No. There may well be additional patches, DragonRR1. I certainly hope so. Sorry if I sound pessimistic, but I just don't think that it's a 'given' that Ubisoft will treat SH4 exactly the same way they did SH3.

Nobody will be happier than the Devs if they are asked to produce additional patches. Personally, I hope we get two more patches....I really can't see us getting any more than that though.

DragonRR1 · 04-22-07, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

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Originally Posted by DragonRR1

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

This site does get monitored, but to my knowledge there has been no confirmation from Ubisoft that there will be any more patches.

It's possible that we'll get patch 1.3, but don't assume that because members here identify bugs and issues that Ubisoft will therefore start work on a new patch.

TDK1044 You've posted several times like this. Everything you say is correct. We don't know whether there will be a 1.3 let alone a 1.4 patch. UBI have officially said nothing about a 1.3. etc.. However you are being rather pessimistic given the fact that the game "appears" to have sold at least reasonably well and historically SH3 had 4 patches and imo wasn't as buggy as SH4 at the outset...

I guess my question is: Do you know something you aren't letting on about the chances of getting further patches?

No. There may well be additional patches, DragonRR1. I certainly hope so. Sorry if I sound pessimistic, but I just don't think that it's a 'given' that Ubisoft will treat SH4 exactly the same way they did SH3.

Nobody will be happier than the Devs if they are asked to produce additional patches. Personally, I hope we get two more patches....I really can't see us getting any more than that though.

Phew.. you had me worried there! It's a shame that UBI aren't more vocal.. even EA these days are posting with patch plans. It is common these days to see PC games capped at 4 patches (or less).. There are, of course, always exceptions to the rule (UBI if you are listening)!

John Channing · 04-22-07, 07:00 PM

In fact at least one of the developers was poking around here earlier today.

JCC

Safe-Keeper · 04-22-07, 07:55 PM

The back cover of the SH4 copy I found in the sore in my hometown had one review quoted - Subsim.com's. It even featured a tiny little subsim.com logo. Good of them.

04-22-07, 02:36 PM	#1
Vorkapitan Samurai Navy Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 594 Downloads: 1367 Uploads: 0	Is Ubisoft / SH4 developers listening? Hi All, I was just wondering if Ubsoft / SH4 developers are monitoring this site for bugs / issues with SH4 for their next patch? It seems rather quiet on their side unless they have been making an effort behind the scenes. Joe

04-22-07, 02:44 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	The short answer is 'yes'. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-22-07, 02:49 PM	#4
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I think SH3 was patched 5 times if I recall, 1.1,1.2,1.3,1.4,1.4b Can anybody confirm that? JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

04-22-07, 02:51 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Right, fair notice. I think it's true enough that the patches depend on Ubisoft's say-so to the devs, not so much the issues themselves. I'm not sure to what extent Ubisoft is willing to extend the game's post-release support nor how much the management is aware of issues. It's good to keep raising them in a productive way, though. The devs are normally aware, but what they can do is often bound by Ubisoft's decisions. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-22-07, 03:02 PM	#9
AJ! Commodore Join Date: May 2006 Location: That lil island above france Posts: 601 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Im sure there will be more patches.... i would be greatly shocked and dissapointed if they stopped patching the game. There is still alot of work to be done and so many things to be added/ improved I was impressed with the resolution fix and AA in the recent patch 1.2 The game looks beutiful now... although my frame rate is starting to suffer At the moment i feel the best option to go on is a Xpack for the game.. Almost like the two xpacks that came out for SH3 only with more content like new rooms in the sub and better crew interaction, maybe even new subs and skins... and of course maybe even jap subs ingame I think my heart would skip a beat if a Xpack was announced for SH4 :p __________________

04-22-07, 02:47 PM	#3
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	This site does get monitored, but to my knowledge there has been no confirmation from Ubisoft that there will be any more patches. It's possible that we'll get patch 1.3, but don't assume that because members here identify bugs and issues that Ubisoft will therefore start work on a new patch.

04-22-07, 02:52 PM	#7
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I think there were 4, with 1.4 and 1.4b being the same patch.

04-22-07, 02:53 PM	#8
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Im certain the ubi developers visit this site reguarlly. Could be as often as every other day. I think its because the community is fairly knowledgable, and is normally, not irrate and a coheirant group to converse with. I woudlnt be surpised if rants and irrate threads put them off from coming here. One thing ive learned over the years with game developers in general, is just because they're not posting or not saying anything, doesnt mean their not listening.

04-22-07, 07:00 PM	#14
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	In fact at least one of the developers was poking around here earlier today. JCC

04-22-07, 07:55 PM	#15
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	The back cover of the SH4 copy I found in the sore in my hometown had one review quoted - Subsim.com's. It even featured a tiny little subsim.com logo. Good of them. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.