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Old 04-20-07, 03:35 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet
see here... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...874#post506874

one video shows a very brief split second filming of the aft of the sub as they increase speed to chase a sighted ship... if you look closely you can see a puff of exhaust smoke.
Good link!
I watched it several times and spotted smoke several times.
Mostly a very light haze with a heat distorsion around the exhaust area.
Should be easy to simulate this effect.

This could also be done in several versions so a random damage could
cause a heavyer smokeing engine?

As for AI spotting it, not as is at the moment.
I'm sure at could be "Cheated in" if you will.
But I don't think smoke was much of a factor in spotting U-Boats
in WWII?
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Old 04-20-07, 03:50 PM   #2
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I seriously doubt if smoke was a large factor in spotting the U-boats

firstly... the U-boat exhaust smoke is very light even when the engine is turning out a lot of power

secondly, the u-boat has such a low profile in the water you would likley spot another ships smoke LONG before they spotted yours.
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Old 04-20-07, 04:03 PM   #3
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Exactly.
If AI was to be a factor, it should only be done
if a damaged engine effect was used.

Then spareingly.
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Old 04-20-07, 04:10 PM   #4
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i drive heavy earthmoving diesel machinery for a liveing anything up too 400 tonnes and the only time a diesel will smoke is when you open the throttle there is a cloud of black smoke until it reaches maximum revs then the smoke disappears after about 2 seconds ,diesels are not dirty smelly machine that we have come too believe in fact they are very powerful at low revs they have lots of torque and very fuel efficient for thier size hence ships lorries trains cars .white smoke is unburnt fuel e.g . when starting a worn engine there is a lot of white smoke until engine warms up blue smoke is also a worn enigine that is burning oil i hope this helps and goog luck with the mod "smoke is good people who smoke is bad":rotfl:
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Old 04-20-07, 04:29 PM   #5
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when starting a worn engine there is a lot of white smoke until engine warms up blue smoke is also a worn enigine that is burning oil
To be more precise, white smoke means that oil -lube oil- is being burnt together with the main fuel, which in old engines happens as the tolerances of the rods, valves, camshafts and such have decreased and lube oil leaks into the combustion chamber until the engine warms up and goes to normal tolerances. Blue smoke is more an outlet camshaft & valves common problem of old engines, as fuel is thrown out without the complete burn cycle being completed, and heated in the exhaust.

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the only time a diesel will smoke is when you open the throttle there is a cloud of black smoke until it reaches maximum revs then the smoke disappears after about 2 seconds
That's correct. Diesels rev up through adding only fuel to the mixture, not fuel+air like petrol engines, thus the more intensive combustion causes thicker smoke.
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Old 04-20-07, 05:09 PM   #6
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It doesn't matter that much...at sea, there's nearly always a breeze - or stronger - which will quickly spread the smoke from a relatively small sub-diesel.
Certainly when there are waves, which have an additional disturbing effect on aircurrents at surface-level.

Imagine how an albatros sailes the wind over the waves...smoke from a sub-diesel (emerging at nearly water-level) is more likely to be drawn downwards between two waves...and as soon as it pops over a wave, it's being grabbed by the wind, and dispersed.

In real-life, a watch-crew would probably be earlier alarmed by the smell, then by the sight of diesel-smoke...if the wind is right...and the source is close.
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Old 04-20-07, 08:10 PM   #7
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In Buchheim's "Das Boot" the commander uses the smoke at flank speed to cover the boat/its wake when they are operating on a convoy and see an escort at 180°...
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Old 04-21-07, 02:04 AM   #8
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This mod looks very promising...
Thanks for your work, Privateer!
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