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Old 04-19-07, 03:39 AM   #16
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Twelve as a mysthic and mythological number is quite interesting:

in 12 are the first two numbers (1 and 2) (resambles something like like yin and yang)

in 12 there are the first three numbers (1+2=3)

in 12 are the first four numbers - the numbers of the Tetraktys (12 = 3*4 -> (1+2+3+4) = 10 (malkuth)

12 has more dividers then the numbers before (1,2,3,4,6,12). That may the reason it was choosen as a basic number for systems ( hours on the clock, months in the year)

Old masons had a rope which was divided in 12 parts. If you bild a triangel from it with side-lenghts of 3,4,5 you get a right angle.

The gnostics emanation knowed 12 aeons.

12 signs on the zodiac - in China and in the West

12 book of judges, 12 prophets, 12 tribes of israel (from 12 sons of Jakob)
the jewish high-priest had 12 emeralds on his pentacel
12 disciples of Jesu, 12 apostel
12 fruits on the Tree of Life
12 stars in crown of Marie
12 gates of Jerusalem

12 Imams of the Shia Islam

12 titans of the greeks
12 gods in the pantheon
12 Rays of Light from the crown of Sun-god Apoll
12 children of earth-goddess Niobe
12 labors for Heracles

12 gods in the pantheon of Rom (and the Etrusks and Hethits)
12 altars for Janus (one of the oldes of the gods)

12 halls of aesirs in Asgard
12 companions of Siegfried
12 knights on the Table of King Arthur in Camelot
12 paladins of Emperor Karl the Great

etc, etc....
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Old 04-19-07, 03:52 AM   #17
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Ah, coincidental bunkum, now I understand.
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Old 04-19-07, 04:01 AM   #18
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'coincidental' = 12 letters

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Old 04-19-07, 04:02 AM   #19
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lol, boy, do I feel silly now
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Old 04-19-07, 04:22 AM   #20
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No need to feel silly - you are just ... a f00l.

Sometimes the fool is the only one, who says it right.

There is a thin line between a fool and a prophet.
Some people say there is no line.
And there are those who think that in Gods heart - there is a fool....
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PS:
...subscription to the Hollow Earth Society...

subscription - 12 letters
Hollow - 6 letters ! (12/2)
Earth Society - 12 letters

...now we need a rabbi.


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Old 04-19-07, 05:00 AM   #21
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Argh! it's all true hehe
along with the rabbi, can we have seers, farseers and withinlookmen?




That guy looks prety carefree, in a kind of 'puss in boots' sort of way.
I take it that's a tarrot card then?
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Old 04-19-07, 05:03 AM   #22
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I knew you are smart.

Tarot is a pictural representation of the cabbalistic system by the way...
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Old 04-19-07, 05:11 AM   #23
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What's this 12,000 per tribe business? :hmm:
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12,000 is a (cabalistic) sum.
No. It's some Christian sum, with no basis in Kabalah, at least according to the Wikipedia link you posted.
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What does this picture have to do with anything, other than referring to a totally unrelated Kabalistic matter, the Ten Sefirot?
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Tarot is a pictural representation of the cabbalistic system by the way...
Source? :hmm:
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...It's some Christian sum...
...and it's a 'cristian' prayer-video, this thread is about.

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What does this picture have to do with anything...
This glyphe 'Otz Chim' presents everything.

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Source? :hmm:
Aleister Crowley - "The Book of Thoth" (or any other good book about Tarot)
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Old 04-19-07, 05:29 AM   #26
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...It's some Christian sum...
...and it's a 'cristian' prayer-video, this thread is about.
Yes but you were the one that said the sum is Kabalistic.

EDIT: Reminder, the Christian video is based on a Jewish Psalm, plus the prayer is for Israel, a Jewish nation. But no matter.
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What does this picture have to do with anything...
This glyphe 'Otz Chim' presents everything.
I do not understand.
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Source? :hmm:
Aleister Crowley - "The Book of Thoth" (or any other good book about Tarot)
That makes an association between Tarot and Egyptian mythology. Once again, nothing to do with Kabalah.
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Argh! it's all true hehe
along with the rabbi, can we have seers, farseers and withinlookmen?
...
It's all true.

Madame Sosostris, famous clairvoyante,
Had a bad cold, nevertheless
Is known to be the wisest woman in Europe,
With a wicked pack of cards. Here, said she,
Is your card, the drowned Phoenician Sailor,
(Those are pearls that were his eyes. Look!)
Here is Belladonna, The Lady of the Rocks, The lady of situations.
Here is the man with three staves, and here the Wheel,
And here is the one-eyed merchant, and this card,
Which is blank, is something he carries on his back,
Which I am forbidden to see. I do not find
The Hanged Man. Fear death by water.
I see crowds of people, walking round in a ring.
Thank you.


T.S. Eliot - The Waste Land

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Old 04-19-07, 05:41 AM   #28
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for Avon Lady:

http://www.amazon.com/Thoth-Short-Es...6979173&sr=8-1


and maybe:
http://www2.ida.net/graphics/shirtail/mormonmystic.htm

and so on and on and on...

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Old 04-19-07, 06:12 AM   #29
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... plus the payer is for Israel...

...

I like your black humour.


(just kidding)
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