Jap sub.

jadd50 · 04-13-07, 10:38 AM

Is any one planing to make Jap. subs. for sh4? It wood be nice to have sub hunting sub. And I like to add I dont like the damage screen of sh4.I like the damage screen of sh3.I like the break down inside view of side, and wish for top view as well. Sorry guys, I like a lot of eye candy for my sub. It is a wish to me, It what makes the game fun to play.And what happen to the fire gage?

AG124 · 04-13-07, 11:41 AM

There are already two Japanese subs in SHIV - a midget sub and the I-400 (Sen-Toku) classes.

Actually, the main issue is developing correct AI behaviour; firing torpedoes, diving, surfacing, etc. As far as I know, no one has accomplished this yet (I'm pretty sure the AI routines are hardcoded both in SHIII and SHIV). Someone could still make an AI sub models which would travel on the surface as a regular surface ship though, or even at a submerged depth (this has been done in SHIII, often by Sergbuto). It's not quite the same though, (but their efforts are still greatly appreciated).

tater · 04-13-07, 12:31 PM

Aircraft torpedos work in SH4 (no idea bout SH3, I don't have it), I tested them. Dunno if you can add them to ships though.

jmjohnson36 · 04-13-07, 05:03 PM

Hmmm you can add any weapons system to any vessel...however Im not sure how the torps would work...I add different weapons and torps to different things all the time in Sh4 to see the modding ability of certain ships. I had 16in guns on a transport...eh worked...but not the way i WANTED...

tater · 04-13-07, 05:20 PM

Well, the TTs that go on ships are the launchers (missing the IJN triple mount). If you put an air torpedo on a DD, would it just sit on the deck? Dunno how that would work.

If it did, I guess you'd clone the air torpedo, and change the clone into a type93 "long lance"

Of course the engagement range for ships would need to be increased.

tater

bigboywooly · 04-13-07, 05:24 PM

Theres a lot more to adding torps to ships than that i'm afraid

Still ongoing in SH3 and the process and alterations arent quick
May not ever be sorted over there for ships though aircraft look promising

Of course you have the air drop torps in 4 so that may help speed things along

jadd50 · 04-14-07, 08:40 PM

Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571. And if some one planing to make modern nuk subs.and torpedos? sorry for all the questions but I am new to this game I have both sh3 and sh4 for only a few weeks now.

LukeFF · 04-14-07, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jadd50

Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571.

No comment.

nimitstexan · 04-14-07, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jadd50

Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571. And if some one planing to make modern nuk subs.and torpedos? sorry for all the questions but I am new to this game I have both sh3 and sh4 for only a few weeks now.

Yes, the hydrophone (passive SONAR) would be able pick up sound of torpedos, and their aproximate bearing.

However, the movie U-571 is not the best source for real WWII sub operations or capabilities.

Sulikate · 04-14-07, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF

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Originally Posted by jadd50

Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571.

No comment.

:rotfl::rotfl:

ps: Das Boot ftw

jadd50 · 04-16-07, 04:09 AM

What places can you find infro. on sub. ops? All this is new to me.
My profisson was a machinest. Retiered do to medical reson. So bear
with me on dum questons. About the reality of the game. I do like realisic
games. The cloest ship I ever been to is U-505 one fine piece of a machine.

joea · 04-16-07, 05:00 AM

Hmmm, SH2 and DC had AI subs that ran on the surface, dove, and fired torpedoes. Even raised their scopes. Surface ships and planes used torpedoes too. :hmm: Sure SH3 and 4 are different engines but why this AI capability was not added, even in the form used in SH2/DC (graphics aside) is a mystery to me.

jadd50 · 04-16-07, 03:38 PM

I wonder if thay well come out with DC to match sh3 and sh4?:hmm:

shad43 · 04-16-07, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sulikate

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Originally Posted by LukeFF

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Originally Posted by jadd50

Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571.

No comment.

:rotfl::rotfl:

ps: Das Boot ftw

Geez why does everyone hate this movie, I kinda liked it

Sulikate · 04-16-07, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shad43

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Originally Posted by Sulikate

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Originally Posted by LukeFF

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Originally Posted by jadd50

Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571.

No comment.

:rotfl::rotfl:

ps: Das Boot ftw

Geez why does everyone hate this movie, I kinda liked it

No comment.

04-13-07, 10:38 AM	#1
jadd50 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: northern Ill. U.S.A. Posts: 6 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Jap sub. Is any one planing to make Jap. subs. for sh4? It wood be nice to have sub hunting sub. And I like to add I dont like the damage screen of sh4.I like the damage screen of sh3.I like the break down inside view of side, and wish for top view as well. Sorry guys, I like a lot of eye candy for my sub. It is a wish to me, It what makes the game fun to play.And what happen to the fire gage?

04-13-07, 11:41 AM	#2
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	AI Japanese Subs There are already two Japanese subs in SHIV - a midget sub and the I-400 (Sen-Toku) classes. Actually, the main issue is developing correct AI behaviour; firing torpedoes, diving, surfacing, etc. As far as I know, no one has accomplished this yet (I'm pretty sure the AI routines are hardcoded both in SHIII and SHIV). Someone could still make an AI sub models which would travel on the surface as a regular surface ship though, or even at a submerged depth (this has been done in SHIII, often by Sergbuto). It's not quite the same though, (but their efforts are still greatly appreciated). __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html

04-13-07, 05:03 PM	#4
jmjohnson36 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kansas City, KS Posts: 203 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Adding weapons Hmmm you can add any weapons system to any vessel...however Im not sure how the torps would work...I add different weapons and torps to different things all the time in Sh4 to see the modding ability of certain ships. I had 16in guns on a transport...eh worked...but not the way i WANTED... __________________ "Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud."~If I was President...Iran would have a nuke...they just wouldnt like the delivery method... <AHREF="http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=120621"_blank">JSGME Quick Reference</A> Major US ARMY RANGERS 1985-2003

04-13-07, 05:24 PM	#6
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Theres a lot more to adding torps to ships than that i'm afraid Still ongoing in SH3 and the process and alterations arent quick May not ever be sorted over there for ships though aircraft look promising Of course you have the air drop torps in 4 so that may help speed things along __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

04-14-07, 08:40 PM	#7
jadd50 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: northern Ill. U.S.A. Posts: 6 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	torpedos Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571. And if some one planing to make modern nuk subs.and torpedos? sorry for all the questions but I am new to this game I have both sh3 and sh4 for only a few weeks now.

04-13-07, 12:31 PM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Aircraft torpedos work in SH4 (no idea bout SH3, I don't have it), I tested them. Dunno if you can add them to ships though.

04-13-07, 05:20 PM	#5
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Well, the TTs that go on ships are the launchers (missing the IJN triple mount). If you put an air torpedo on a DD, would it just sit on the deck? Dunno how that would work. If it did, I guess you'd clone the air torpedo, and change the clone into a type93 "long lance" Of course the engagement range for ships would need to be increased. tater

04-16-07, 04:09 AM	#11
jadd50 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: northern Ill. U.S.A. Posts: 6 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	What places can you find infro. on sub. ops? All this is new to me. My profisson was a machinest. Retiered do to medical reson. So bear with me on dum questons. About the reality of the game. I do like realisic games. The cloest ship I ever been to is U-505 one fine piece of a machine.

04-16-07, 05:00 AM	#12
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Hmmm, SH2 and DC had AI subs that ran on the surface, dove, and fired torpedoes. Even raised their scopes. Surface ships and planes used torpedoes too. :hmm: Sure SH3 and 4 are different engines but why this AI capability was not added, even in the form used in SH2/DC (graphics aside) is a mystery to me.

04-16-07, 03:38 PM	#13
jadd50 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: northern Ill. U.S.A. Posts: 6 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I wonder if thay well come out with DC to match sh3 and sh4?:hmm: