A New American Sub Movie

desertisland · 04-11-07, 11:27 PM

A little off-topic, just a point:

I believe the problem with mainstream movies is, they are made to feature a specific cast. Producers are not looking for actors to play in a specific script. Rather, they build entire script around a particular star, because that's what sells movies. People didn't went to see MI2, they went to see Tom Cruise.

Good movies don't sell. Movies with good selling points sell. The box office wars is lost or won on 2 factors:

1. What can you present on the movie poster. Cast, scene shots, big names, awards. These decide for the moviegoers if they will reach for their wallet.

2. What can you present in the trailer. A good movie may not sell well. A movie that sells must have scenes which will look good in the trailer.

The second factor has become so important that I believe producers "backward produce" movies from trailer ideas: They first decide how the trailer will look like -- explosions, sex, violence -- and what interesting plots to have -- funny, witty, scary, cool punch lines -- and produce a movie from the trailer; rather than summarizing a movie into trailers.

This is evident in movies with plots that don't work or punchlines that may be cool but sounds awkward in the context they are delivered. They are not an organic part of the movie, they are there so that the trailer will look good.

UglyMowgli · 04-12-07, 04:19 AM

gets FRAPS, SH4 and make a small movie, send it ot hollywood and sell the concept, scenario and gain $$$.

Sailor Steve · 04-12-07, 11:07 AM

I HATE thread titles like "A New American Sub Movie"!

I thought there WAS one, and you had a link!

desertisland · 04-13-07, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSgalileo

gets FRAPS, SH4 and make a small movie, send it ot hollywood and sell the concept, scenario and gain $$$.

And Ubisoft will get a huge chunk off that $$$...

"...we never authorize the use of our software for use other that personal entertainment... this is a case of outright intellectual property right infringement... blah blah blah..."

bigbluevan793 · 05-22-07, 07:51 PM

I am new to this forum, but a big sub supporter. Run Silent Run Deep and Dust on the Sea should be a PBS type of production/miniseries. This time, RSRD should be depicted as it was written, not that tripe starring Gable, and Lancaster. Respects to Edward L. Beach jr.

04-11-07, 11:27 PM	#1
desertisland Gunner Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Desert Island Posts: 96 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	A little off-topic, just a point: I believe the problem with mainstream movies is, they are made to feature a specific cast. Producers are not looking for actors to play in a specific script. Rather, they build entire script around a particular star, because that's what sells movies. People didn't went to see MI2, they went to see Tom Cruise. Good movies don't sell. Movies with good selling points sell. The box office wars is lost or won on 2 factors: 1. What can you present on the movie poster. Cast, scene shots, big names, awards. These decide for the moviegoers if they will reach for their wallet. 2. What can you present in the trailer. A good movie may not sell well. A movie that sells must have scenes which will look good in the trailer. The second factor has become so important that I believe producers "backward produce" movies from trailer ideas: They first decide how the trailer will look like -- explosions, sex, violence -- and what interesting plots to have -- funny, witty, scary, cool punch lines -- and produce a movie from the trailer; rather than summarizing a movie into trailers. This is evident in movies with plots that don't work or punchlines that may be cool but sounds awkward in the context they are delivered. They are not an organic part of the movie, they are there so that the trailer will look good. Last edited by desertisland; 04-12-07 at 12:36 AM.

04-12-07, 04:19 AM	#2
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	gets FRAPS, SH4 and make a small movie, send it ot hollywood and sell the concept, scenario and gain $$$. __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

04-12-07, 11:07 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I HATE thread titles like "A New American Sub Movie"! I thought there WAS one, and you had a link! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-22-07, 07:51 PM	#5
bigbluevan793 Bilge Rat Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am new to this forum, but a big sub supporter. Run Silent Run Deep and Dust on the Sea should be a PBS type of production/miniseries. This time, RSRD should be depicted as it was written, not that tripe starring Gable, and Lancaster. Respects to Edward L. Beach jr.