Democrats extend troop deployments

[Enigma]

"The bottom line is this: Congress’s failure to fund our troops will mean that some of our military families could wait longer for their loved ones to return from the front lines. Others could see their loved ones headed back to war sooner than anticipated. This is unacceptable. It’s unacceptable to me, it’s unacceptable to our veterans, it’s unacceptable to our military families, and it’s unacceptable to many in this country. " - GWB

Ummmmm.....

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Tours of duty for members of the U.S. Army will be extended from 12 months to 15 months effective immediately, Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced Wednesday.
"What we're trying to do here is provide some long-term predictability to our soldiers and their families," Gates told reporters at the Pentagon.
In exchange for the extension, Gates said the service will be able to give all units a year at home between deployments.
He denied the order was a sign that the Army has passed its breaking point under the stresses of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, saying the service has met or passed its recruiting and retention goals.
But he added that the military has been "stretched" by the conflicts.

It just seems to me as if Bush's sense of urgency on this thing is utterly false.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Enigma

It just seems to me as if Bush's sense of urgency on this thing is utterly false.

I don't think so. It has many parallels to the Vietnam era, so if I were Bush, I'd be worried too.

-S

Yesterday Harry Reid said that 'we represent the american people and he doesnt'.

Perhaps some one should give Senator Reid a civics lesson.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Yesterday Harry Reid said that 'we represent the american people and he doesnt'.

Perhaps some one should give Senator Reid a civics lesson.

Weeeelll, the most recent demonstration of American political opinion got the Dems into Congressional majority, so.....

EDIT: This looks like I want to argue. Christ no.

What does chicken little have to say about my country now? Try to stay within your own contry's sh1t chicken little. Unless of course you'd like us to point at yours.

[Enigma]

EDIT: This looks like I want to argue. Christ no.

What does chicken little have to say about my country now? Try to stay within your own contry's sh1t chicken little. Unless of course you'd like us to point at yours.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Weeeelll, the most recent demonstration of American political opinion got the Dems into Congressional majority, so.....

EDIT: This looks like I want to argue. Christ no.

THey were voted in because people wanted a change in direction, not a pullout. A pullout is exactly what the American people don't want - they want someone to fix the problem.

Here is the latest poll on the subject. (The point is, please know your facts before you speak.)

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

THey were voted in because people wanted a change in direction, not a pullout. A pullout is exactly what the American people don't want - they want someone to fix the problem.

Here is the latest poll on the subject. (The point is, please know your facts before you speak.)

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

the point is, please know your facts, don't try to distort the complete message, do not opportunistically quote out of context and identify your sources for quotes, when you speak.

The complete poll expresses resistance to Bush's course from roughly one half up to two thirds of people who got asked.

One year ago:
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle12103.htm

Four months ago:
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/po...war-falls.html

Let's start a poll war, who can show up with more and better links to polls?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

THey were voted in because people wanted a change in direction, not a pullout. A pullout is exactly what the American people don't want - they want someone to fix the problem.

Here is the latest poll on the subject. (The point is, please know your facts before you speak.)

Riiiight. I was making a small assesment of American political representation. Harry Reid has a better claim to represent the American people than GWB, seeing as in the most recent national poll, the Dems were more successful than the GOP. That's it.
It was in response to this

Originally Posted by waste

Yesterday Harry Reid said that 'we represent the american people and he doesnt'.

Perhaps some one should give Senator Reid a civics lesson.

Thanks for the assertion that I don't know my facts, it gives me hope and further reason to participate in this thread.
But hope is not a strategy. Oh, look, a balloon.

[Skybird]

Extremely cheap shot at the democrats in this topic headline.

As a matter of fact the Pentagon announced the decision, which was made by the pentagon, and accoriding governmental and Republican figures.

If Bush only would honour the will of the majority of Iraqis ordinary people (who since months said they demand a definite date for withdrawal - we even had a heated debated on that in this forum, many months ago), and if he just would admit that two thirds of Americans, roughly said, are against his policy in general, and handling of Iraq in special, so that Bush just would accept responsibility for a catastrophic military failure, and would agree to name a date within a reasonable timeframe instead of crushing the military more and more for the purpose of chasing follies, then he would have acchieved cooperation with the democrats on the issue of war funds.

That's what it will be about in the years to come: getting the troops out and blaiming Republicans rightfully to be responsible for the Iraq mess, while Democrats will be accused of being responsible for not accepting to wage an eternal, lost war for nothing. what it means: American soldiers are risking their lifes for internal American party politics, and get shot for winning voter's marks.

Grossartig.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/11/wo...hp&oref=slogin

Senator Chuck Hagel, a Nebraska Republican who has been highly critical of President Bush’s conduct of the war, called the Pentagon announcement “a stark admission that the administration’s policies in Iraq are doing permanent damage to our military.”

[Enigma]

Extremely cheap shot at the democrats in this topic headline.

You are missing my sarcasm, sir. :p

[Skybird]

If so, my apology! You just touched an itching allergy of mine

[Enigma]

No worries....

It was a crass way of pointing out that Bush is accusing the Dem's of attempting to extend troop deployments, when obviously we have to do so anyway, per the Pentagon....

Or, in other words, Misleading and Hypocrisy from the President....

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I don't think so. It has many parallels to the Vietnam era, so if I were Bush, I'd be worried too.

-S

You nailed it on the head and this war has A LOT of paralles to Vietnam. What is currently happening is a sort of cloak and dagger....the is a troop build up going on and then a withdrawl....Vietnam again. 13000 troops are preparing to go. Here is our build up. Soon after we pull the plug.