Getting others interested in SH4 - Page 4

P_Funk · 04-11-07, 03:24 AM

A game that seeks to challenge you intellectually is a problem for a majority of people that don't have much of an intellect to begin with. I enjoy explosions, but its much nicer to have to work for it. Its about patience and thought.

But the same reason people don't play SH3 or SH4 is probably why fewer than 30% of Canadians vote. They can't be bothered to use their brains.

fredbass · 04-11-07, 05:45 AM

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I gave up a long time ago trying to get people interested in my interests. Some people will say how stupid or boring it is and it upsets me and I get all John Channing on them.

I've been playing computer games since 1977 and can relate. Usually right after they tell me games are stupid or boring they follow up by asking me if I golf . . .

Now that's funny.

I've told a few people what I play, but PC gaming really isn't there thing. I usually have an easier time explaining this kind of stuff to a younger crowd since my friends are a bit older than most gamers.

Of Course a great place to try and convince people to play any game is to make suggestions to fellow shoppers right in the store as they are browsing for something to purchase in the software gaming isle.

McBeck · 04-11-07, 07:07 AM

You mean other people than us play this game?!?!

Oosel · 04-11-07, 07:17 AM

ive had the game now for over 2 weeks but havent even installed it after reading the bug reports so im gonna wait another few more weeks and finish off c+c3 by which time sh4 will be patched and modded and i can happily play it

ReallyDedPoet · 04-11-07, 07:19 AM

Even with the bugs it is worth playing

Von Hinten · 04-11-07, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Oosel

ive had the game now for over 2 weeks but havent even installed it after reading the bug reports so im gonna wait another few more weeks and finish off c+c3 by which time sh4 will be patched and modded and i can happily play it

Man I would be going nuts like:

'What's in the box!?'

... if I had SHIV sitting on the shelve for two weeks. I'm just so glad I installed it.

Oosel · 04-11-07, 08:48 AM

nah seriously with eve online and c+c3 it will be just like waiting for gwx for sh3......it can be maddening to know something could be so much better and i can still keep my interest by looking at the ever increasing eye via all the screen shots posted here

Quillan · 04-11-07, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

If I am to play real-time games, it'll have to be those that really make me think and employ tactics and strategies such as using terrain to my advantage, making the most of each unit, and so on.

Off topic: Give Company of Heroes a try. I don't generally like RTS either, but I love this one!

OddjobXL · 04-11-07, 10:02 AM

I don't think intellect has much to do with whether or not you'll like a sub sim. I'm sure there are plenty of brilliant people with no interest in gaming whatsoever and even if they did play they might be more intrigued by certain browser-puzzle games than historical simulations. Who knows?

What I do think it's about is temperment. If you can sit still and get absorbed by the concepts or narratives in books, feel transported into whatever you're reading about, then you'll probably do well with a more contemplative game like a subsim. Most of the traction doesn't happen in the nervous system but somewhere in the frontal lobes as you imagine what's going on. Subsims especially appeal to players that love immersion because while no game can really foist an immersive atmosphere on players they can inspire players capable of being immersed to slip into another world for a while. And a game that's so dependant on clues, incomplete information, and audio over visuals sets up a mindscape like no other.

I agree with the fellows who say it's about the story the game presents, not explicitly, but through gameplay. You really feel yourself in the role. There are other kinds of games that do this but I always find simulations with dynamic (or semi-dynamic/randomized) campaigns hold a special place in the pantheon of immersive experiences. The other sort of games that can pull this off for me is strategy games with roleplaying elements. Also huge amounts of room for stories to spontaneously generate out of raw gameplay and for the imagination to go to work and create an experience that's far more than the sum of its parts.

Ayari · 04-11-07, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Quillan

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

If I am to play real-time games, it'll have to be those that really make me think and employ tactics and strategies such as using terrain to my advantage, making the most of each unit, and so on.

Off topic: Give Company of Heroes a try. I don't generally like RTS either, but I love this one!

agreed,

I like RTS's and IMO CoH is the best RTS made in a long time

Wilcke · 04-11-07, 04:25 PM

Their eyes glaze over.....I do not bother....

Wilcke

04-11-07, 03:24 AM	#46
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	A game that seeks to challenge you intellectually is a problem for a majority of people that don't have much of an intellect to begin with. I enjoy explosions, but its much nicer to have to work for it. Its about patience and thought. But the same reason people don't play SH3 or SH4 is probably why fewer than 30% of Canadians vote. They can't be bothered to use their brains. __________________

04-11-07, 07:07 AM	#48
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	You mean other people than us play this game?!?! __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

04-11-07, 07:19 AM	#50
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,890 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Even with the bugs it is worth playing __________________ Back in the Day

04-11-07, 07:17 AM	#49
Oosel Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	ive had the game now for over 2 weeks but havent even installed it after reading the bug reports so im gonna wait another few more weeks and finish off c+c3 by which time sh4 will be patched and modded and i can happily play it

04-11-07, 08:48 AM	#52
Oosel Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	nah seriously with eve online and c+c3 it will be just like waiting for gwx for sh3......it can be maddening to know something could be so much better and i can still keep my interest by looking at the ever increasing eye via all the screen shots posted here

04-11-07, 10:02 AM	#54
OddjobXL Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 119 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't think intellect has much to do with whether or not you'll like a sub sim. I'm sure there are plenty of brilliant people with no interest in gaming whatsoever and even if they did play they might be more intrigued by certain browser-puzzle games than historical simulations. Who knows? What I do think it's about is temperment. If you can sit still and get absorbed by the concepts or narratives in books, feel transported into whatever you're reading about, then you'll probably do well with a more contemplative game like a subsim. Most of the traction doesn't happen in the nervous system but somewhere in the frontal lobes as you imagine what's going on. Subsims especially appeal to players that love immersion because while no game can really foist an immersive atmosphere on players they can inspire players capable of being immersed to slip into another world for a while. And a game that's so dependant on clues, incomplete information, and audio over visuals sets up a mindscape like no other. I agree with the fellows who say it's about the story the game presents, not explicitly, but through gameplay. You really feel yourself in the role. There are other kinds of games that do this but I always find simulations with dynamic (or semi-dynamic/randomized) campaigns hold a special place in the pantheon of immersive experiences. The other sort of games that can pull this off for me is strategy games with roleplaying elements. Also huge amounts of room for stories to spontaneously generate out of raw gameplay and for the imagination to go to work and create an experience that's far more than the sum of its parts.

04-11-07, 04:25 PM	#56
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	Their eyes glaze over.....I do not bother.... Wilcke