Video card question

shad43 · 04-11-07, 11:32 AM

Im currently using an ATI x1600 512 PCIe, its an ok card, runs the game fine but this particular card has well know overheating issues and I find ATI drivers to be buggy most of the time (always been an nVidea guy) anyway I also have a GeForce 6600 128 its also an ok card ran, SHIII well but is miles apart from the x1600 performance wise.
I see the 6600 is supported by SH4, is anybody running one?
Also Im thinking about getting a cheap card to tide me over until I can afford a new system (I have 2 teenage daughters = no money for Dad's toys!) my system only has a 300 watt ps so my choices are limited...I've found a Geforce 7300 that looks to strike a compromise between the aformentioned cards but see that the game does not support it...is anyone running one?

Cheers

(maybe this should have been in tech, oop's sorry Gizz)

AVGWarhawk · 04-11-07, 12:04 PM

I see a lot are looking but not writing. I believe your ATI card will out perform the Nividia card. There is a new driver 7.3 for the ATI card. It is stable on my X1300 XGE 512mb card. This card runs the game very well. I did read about the GeForce 7300.....game will run poorly on this card. The 6600 card, a step up from my 6200 card...this 6200 card ran the game badly. I feel you will get no gain with the 6600 card.....IMHO.

I recommend the new ATI drivers and tweek it for best pic/performance

shad43 · 04-11-07, 12:14 PM

Thanks for the reply Hawk, Im fairly happy with the x1600 its just the heat issue, I even have an oversized case fan, it helps some, most of the time theres no problem but on occasion the card will simply shut down, a restart fixes the problem but you never know when its gonna happen...man its so hard not to mention expensive to keep up with tech these days.
I was running 7.1 cats, I'll update now.

Thanks, this was exactly the kind of info I needed

AVGWarhawk · 04-11-07, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shad43

Thanks for the reply Hawk, Im fairly happy with the x1600 its just the heat issue, I even have an oversized case fan, it helps some, most of the time theres no problem but on occasion the card will simply shut down, a restart fixes the problem but you never know when its gonna happen...man its so hard not to mention expensive to keep up with tech these days.
I was running 7.1 cats, I'll update now.

Thanks

I have the 1300 and heat seems to be OK. I have done nothing for more cooling. I guess you tried the old canned air to clean off dust? Fan doing its thing? Make more vent holes?

Maybe some guys with this card might have the answer to the heat problem you are having.

SteamWake · 04-11-07, 12:46 PM

Its curious that you mentioned the power supply.

Let me relate and experience I have had.

I purchased an X1800 and installed it in my machine. It whistled and whined and the little fan was running its bearings off untill...... POP and the machine quit. It took about 2 hours.

I had blown the fuse in the power supply. I went out and bought a new larger power supply. After installation the fan on the video card now just idles and cruises along. Ive had no problems since.

My theroy is that the old smaller supply could not keep the voltage at necessary levels causing an increase in the current therefore increasing the heat.

Anyhow it is good that you have figured in your power supply in the considerations and werent a dummy like me

FIREWALL · 04-11-07, 12:48 PM

Hi I'm asumeing it's an AGP card. From TigerDirect got a xgx7600gs 512mb
ddr2 8x $150.00 Didn't want to spend the money but the game plays sweet at full power. Later this year new rig and a pair of "88's" SLI.

Snuffy · 04-11-07, 12:54 PM

I run mine with an SLI pair of nVidia 7600 GS cards. Runs just fine.

AVGWarhawk · 04-11-07, 12:57 PM

He has the 7300 card. I think there will be issues.

Shad.....power supply as Steamwake suggested?:hmm: Hmmmmm...could be getting somewhere.

Commander Ryan · 04-11-07, 01:02 PM

Hi there new to the forum but enjoying the buzz
Ive just purchased a ATI RADEON 9550 256mb 8XAGP CARD and it seems to be running great I had PCI but invested in a new motherboard with AGP and its Great.

I Was just wondering if you could tell me how to get a picture at the side of my profile i went to edit signature but it only comes up at the end of my messages not sure what to do please can someone help

FIREWALL · 04-11-07, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

He has the 7300 card. I think there will be issues.

Shad.....power supply as Steamwake suggested?:hmm: Hmmmmm...could be getting somewhere.

Who mentioned a 7300 card ?

Cakewalk · 04-11-07, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

He has the 7300 card. I think there will be issues.

Shad.....power supply as Steamwake suggested?:hmm: Hmmmmm...could be getting somewhere.

Who mentioned a 7300 card ?

Shad43 in his first post.

FIREWALL · 04-11-07, 01:22 PM

OOPS!!!

Partsking · 04-11-07, 01:24 PM

I'd look into getting a Zalman to go on your x1600. Should reduce your temps up to 10-15c on both idle and load. You'll be able OC that card and squeeze out some extra performance after that.

Here's your link:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118006

shad43 · 04-11-07, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Its curious that you mentioned the power supply.

Let me relate and experience I have had.

I purchased an X1800 and installed it in my machine. It whistled and whined and the little fan was running its bearings off untill...... POP and the machine quit. It took about 2 hours.

I had blown the fuse in the power supply. I went out and bought a new larger power supply. After installation the fan on the video card now just idles and cruises along. Ive had no problems since.

My theroy is that the old smaller supply could not keep the voltage at necessary levels causing an increase in the current therefore increasing the heat.

Anyhow it is good that you have figured in your power supply in the considerations and werent a dummy like me

This could very well be my issue, 300 watt ps - x1600 300 watt minimum.
Perhaps I can find a bigger ps that will work, I have an HP A730N with a ASUS
PTDG1-LA mb, I know that some of the big name computers, Dell for instance don't like to have the ps changed, will fry the mb (I've read) anyway I cant find any info regarding my particular setup...so maybe I can swap her out with no troubles.

Thanks for the info's guys
Cheers

shad43 · 04-11-07, 01:54 PM

Ok, I've found a few ps that fit my budget, now if the dimensions are similar (to fit in the case) and the dongles supplied with the new ps match the old HP ps, it should work?...is there anything else to consider? :hmm:

Think I've answered my own question...looks like this will work
Thermaltake / PurePower / 430-Watt / ATX / Dual 80mm LED Fan / 20/24-Pin / SATA Ready / PCI-E Ready / Power Supply

within the budget, maybe I'll give it a try, if all else fails at least I've got a better ps.

04-11-07, 11:32 AM	#1
shad43 Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: six feet under Posts: 301 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Video card question Im currently using an ATI x1600 512 PCIe, its an ok card, runs the game fine but this particular card has well know overheating issues and I find ATI drivers to be buggy most of the time (always been an nVidea guy) anyway I also have a GeForce 6600 128 its also an ok card ran, SHIII well but is miles apart from the x1600 performance wise. I see the 6600 is supported by SH4, is anybody running one? Also Im thinking about getting a cheap card to tide me over until I can afford a new system (I have 2 teenage daughters = no money for Dad's toys!) my system only has a 300 watt ps so my choices are limited...I've found a Geforce 7300 that looks to strike a compromise between the aformentioned cards but see that the game does not support it...is anyone running one? Cheers (maybe this should have been in tech, oop's sorry Gizz)

04-11-07, 12:04 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I see a lot are looking but not writing. I believe your ATI card will out perform the Nividia card. There is a new driver 7.3 for the ATI card. It is stable on my X1300 XGE 512mb card. This card runs the game very well. I did read about the GeForce 7300.....game will run poorly on this card. The 6600 card, a step up from my 6200 card...this 6200 card ran the game badly. I feel you will get no gain with the 6600 card.....IMHO. I recommend the new ATI drivers and tweek it for best pic/performance __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-11-07, 12:48 PM	#6
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Hi I'm asumeing it's an AGP card. From TigerDirect got a xgx7600gs 512mb ddr2 8x $150.00 Didn't want to spend the money but the game plays sweet at full power. Later this year new rig and a pair of "88's" SLI. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

04-11-07, 12:54 PM	#7
Snuffy XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 420 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I run mine with an SLI pair of nVidia 7600 GS cards. Runs just fine. __________________ ----------------- Snuffy!

04-11-07, 12:57 PM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	He has the 7300 card. I think there will be issues. Shad.....power supply as Steamwake suggested?:hmm: Hmmmmm...could be getting somewhere. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-11-07, 12:14 PM	#3
shad43 Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: six feet under Posts: 301 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the reply Hawk, Im fairly happy with the x1600 its just the heat issue, I even have an oversized case fan, it helps some, most of the time theres no problem but on occasion the card will simply shut down, a restart fixes the problem but you never know when its gonna happen...man its so hard not to mention expensive to keep up with tech these days. I was running 7.1 cats, I'll update now. Thanks, this was exactly the kind of info I needed

04-11-07, 12:46 PM	#5
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Its curious that you mentioned the power supply. Let me relate and experience I have had. I purchased an X1800 and installed it in my machine. It whistled and whined and the little fan was running its bearings off untill...... POP and the machine quit. It took about 2 hours. I had blown the fuse in the power supply. I went out and bought a new larger power supply. After installation the fan on the video card now just idles and cruises along. Ive had no problems since. My theroy is that the old smaller supply could not keep the voltage at necessary levels causing an increase in the current therefore increasing the heat. Anyhow it is good that you have figured in your power supply in the considerations and werent a dummy like me

04-11-07, 01:02 PM	#9
Commander Ryan Nub Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: sunderland Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Graphics cards Hi there new to the forum but enjoying the buzz Ive just purchased a ATI RADEON 9550 256mb 8XAGP CARD and it seems to be running great I had PCI but invested in a new motherboard with AGP and its Great. I Was just wondering if you could tell me how to get a picture at the side of my profile i went to edit signature but it only comes up at the end of my messages not sure what to do please can someone help __________________

04-11-07, 01:22 PM	#12
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	OOPS!!! __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

04-11-07, 01:24 PM	#13
Partsking Watch Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 24 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I'd look into getting a Zalman to go on your x1600. Should reduce your temps up to 10-15c on both idle and load. You'll be able OC that card and squeeze out some extra performance after that. Here's your link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118006 __________________ ..behold a pale Ford: and his name that sat upon him was Partsking, and Miller Lite followed with him...

04-11-07, 01:54 PM	#15
shad43 Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: six feet under Posts: 301 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Ok, I've found a few ps that fit my budget, now if the dimensions are similar (to fit in the case) and the dongles supplied with the new ps match the old HP ps, it should work?...is there anything else to consider? :hmm: Think I've answered my own question...looks like this will work Thermaltake / PurePower / 430-Watt / ATX / Dual 80mm LED Fan / 20/24-Pin / SATA Ready / PCI-E Ready / Power Supply within the budget, maybe I'll give it a try, if all else fails at least I've got a better ps. Last edited by shad43; 04-11-07 at 02:04 PM.