[REL] SH4 Japan Recognition Manual v3.1 UPDATED RELEASE!

yllekm · 04-10-07, 01:20 AM

NEWS!

Hot fix Imperial and Metric versions 3.1 released!!!

Imperial changes:

· Fixed dimensions on Kongo, Yamato and Hiryu (thanks Krupp!)
· Fixed speed on Kongo and Yamato

Download v3.1 Imperial here: http://www.speedyshare.com/432939560.html

Metric changes:

· Fixed speed on Kongo and Yamato

Download v3.1 Metric here: http://www.speedyshare.com/434334349.html

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Here is the third, and drastically improved, version of my Japan Recognition Manual for SH4.

Note: You should get rid of any previous version as much of the data was wrong.

Changes in v3 include:

· Added Version History
· Improved the cover
· Replaced flag graphics
· Adjusted flag dimensions
· Created Metric version
· Added Length and Beam data
· Updated all data to match printed material (I used the US version recognition poster). I strongly suggest you get Krupp’s JP Ship Dimension Fix mod, which changes the in-game data to match the printed material and this manual – the original in-game data seems to be seriously flawed (especially mast heights where there were drastic differences).
· Assigned proper Class and Type to each vessel
· Regrouped/reordered some vessels
· Fixed a few silhouette graphics (wrong vessels shown)

Download v3 Imperial here: obsolete - get v3.1 (see above)

Download v3 Metric here: obsolete - get v3.1 (see above)

Camaero · 04-10-07, 01:40 AM

Thanks dude!

Jungman · 04-10-07, 04:48 AM

Very, very Nice!

You made alot people happy. Keep up the work. Plenty more ships to go!

Von Hinten · 04-10-07, 05:52 AM

Thanks for the update m8, good job.

yllekm · 04-10-07, 03:56 PM

A few additonal notes:

I should have mentioned/emphasized that the main reason you should get rid of previous versions of the manual and start using this new one is that the old data was taken from the in-game manual, which Krupp and others have demonstrated is wrong (like I said above, get his fix for this). I unfortunately didn't know this at the time I released the original manual.

I have also discovered a small, cosmetic bug in the merchant flags. I intended to resize these but forgot to do it - not a biggie but it will be fixed in the next version.

About the next version - I have started work on the American ships and will release a combined Japan/American manual next. As usual, no guarantee on when it will be done - that real life thing is ever present in my world. The other ships will follow, provided I can get reliable data. I would dearly like to get my hands on the printed recognition manual (or a scan thereof) from the Euro (UK?) Deluxe or limited Collector's versions, provided it has the other ships - I only have the Canadian version, which has nothing, not even the recogntion posters (Ubisoft, take note)!

I am now quite happy with the form and content of the manual but always welcome your suggestions for improvements or any word on bugs/errors.

I am hoping for a good tool (i.e. 3d model viewer) to be released so that I can generate my own silhouettes, creating additional viewing angles (the ones in the Ubisoft silhouettes currently used are 0, 45 and 90 degrees - I think at least one other, say 22.5 degrees would be very useful) and I would also like to add new kit-bashed or original ship models as the community develops them. I know there is a 3d viewer in development so am hopeful this will be a reality soon.

Krupp · 04-11-07, 07:25 AM

Your new rec manual looks great

Could you check these?

lengths:
Your rec manual (dev collector's edit manual)
Kongo: 721.8ft (225m/738ft)
Yamato: 721.8ft (263.2m/863.5ft)
Hiryu: 721.8ft (223.3m/732.6ft)

widths:
Yamato: 103.7ft (38.9m/127.6ft)
Hiryu: 103.7ft (21.3m/69.9ft)

mast heights:
Kongo: 137.8ft (43m/141.1ft)
Hiryu: 65.6ft (35.2m/115.5ft)

I was just wandering which ones are ok.

yllekm · 04-11-07, 09:06 AM

Yep, these are porked - fixed in next version. Good catch. Thanks, Krupp.

I have added a few more that need to be fixed as well (inserted in bold)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krupp

Your new rec manual looks great

Could you check these?

speed:
Yamato: 27.0kts (27.5kts)
Kongo: 31.0kts (30.5kts)

lengths:
Your rec manual (dev collector's edit manual)
Kongo: 721.8ft (225m/738ft)
Yamato: 721.8ft (263.2m/863.5ft)
Hiryu: 721.8ft (223.3m/732.6ft)

widths:
Kongo: 103.7ft (31.7m/104.0ft)
Yamato: 103.7ft (38.9m/127.6ft)
Hiryu: 103.7ft (21.3m/69.9ft)

mast heights:
Kongo: 137.8ft (43m/141.1ft)
Yamato: 144.4ft (43.5m/142.7ft)
Hiryu: 65.6ft (35.2m/115.5ft)

draft:
Kongo: 30.8ft (9.8m/32.2ft)
Yamato: 32.8ft (10.9m/35.8ft)

Speed changes affect both Metric and Imperial versions. Dimension changes affect only Imperial version.

I was just wandering which ones are ok.

Onkel Neal · 04-11-07, 05:36 PM

Let me know when it has been updated, thanks

Is there a way to mod the INGAME ID book with feet ??
Neal

R48 · 04-11-07, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Is there a way to mod the INGAME ID book with feet ??

I sure hope so! That's just what I was thinking.

Schultzy · 04-11-07, 06:31 PM

Thanks for your continued work on this mate! Gets beter and better.

yllekm · 04-11-07, 07:36 PM

On my list of things to look at Neal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Is there a way to mod the INGAME ID book with feet ??
Neal

flintlock · 04-11-07, 07:46 PM

Thank you very much for sharing this. Good stuff indeed!

AG124 · 04-11-07, 07:51 PM

Any progress on the next version of the recognition manual (with Allied ships)?

Also:

Quote:

Originally Posted by yllekm

...I only have the Canadian version, which has nothing, not even the recogntion posters (Ubisoft, take note)!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108371

yllekm · 04-12-07, 02:40 AM

The Allied version may be a while. I think we might be missing a fair amount of accurate data as many of the Allied ships are not in the printed recognition manual and the in-game manual dimensions are suspect. I need to sort through this to confirm whether there is a data problem and if so, decide what to do about it.

BUT:

Since there will be a delay, I have decided to push a hot fix for dimensioning errors Krupp found on the Kongo, Yamato and Hiryu and speed errors I found on the Kongo and Yamato now, rather than waiting until the next major release.

See the first post in this thread for download links.

BlackSpot · 04-16-07, 11:15 AM

Thanks for all the work you've put into the Jap manual.

04-10-07, 01:20 AM	#1
yllekm Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	[REL] SH4 Japan Recognition Manual v3.1 UPDATED RELEASE! NEWS! Hot fix Imperial and Metric versions 3.1 released!!! Imperial changes: · Fixed dimensions on Kongo, Yamato and Hiryu (thanks Krupp!) · Fixed speed on Kongo and Yamato Download v3.1 Imperial here: http://www.speedyshare.com/432939560.html Metric changes: · Fixed speed on Kongo and Yamato Download v3.1 Metric here: http://www.speedyshare.com/434334349.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the third, and drastically improved, version of my Japan Recognition Manual for SH4. Note: You should get rid of any previous version as much of the data was wrong. Changes in v3 include: · Added Version History · Improved the cover · Replaced flag graphics · Adjusted flag dimensions · Created Metric version · Added Length and Beam data · Updated all data to match printed material (I used the US version recognition poster). I strongly suggest you get Krupp’s JP Ship Dimension Fix mod, which changes the in-game data to match the printed material and this manual – the original in-game data seems to be seriously flawed (especially mast heights where there were drastic differences). · Assigned proper Class and Type to each vessel · Regrouped/reordered some vessels · Fixed a few silhouette graphics (wrong vessels shown) Download v3 Imperial here: obsolete - get v3.1 (see above) Download v3 Metric here: obsolete - get v3.1 (see above) Last edited by yllekm; 11-25-07 at 12:04 AM.

04-10-07, 01:40 AM	#2
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Thanks dude! __________________

04-10-07, 05:52 AM	#4
Von Hinten Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 466 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the update m8, good job. __________________ Regardz, Von Hinten UC3 Nautilus' engineer for 45 minutes!

04-10-07, 03:56 PM	#5
yllekm Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	A few additonal notes: I should have mentioned/emphasized that the main reason you should get rid of previous versions of the manual and start using this new one is that the old data was taken from the in-game manual, which Krupp and others have demonstrated is wrong (like I said above, get his fix for this). I unfortunately didn't know this at the time I released the original manual. I have also discovered a small, cosmetic bug in the merchant flags. I intended to resize these but forgot to do it - not a biggie but it will be fixed in the next version. About the next version - I have started work on the American ships and will release a combined Japan/American manual next. As usual, no guarantee on when it will be done - that real life thing is ever present in my world. The other ships will follow, provided I can get reliable data. I would dearly like to get my hands on the printed recognition manual (or a scan thereof) from the Euro (UK?) Deluxe or limited Collector's versions, provided it has the other ships - I only have the Canadian version, which has nothing, not even the recogntion posters (Ubisoft, take note)! I am now quite happy with the form and content of the manual but always welcome your suggestions for improvements or any word on bugs/errors. I am hoping for a good tool (i.e. 3d model viewer) to be released so that I can generate my own silhouettes, creating additional viewing angles (the ones in the Ubisoft silhouettes currently used are 0, 45 and 90 degrees - I think at least one other, say 22.5 degrees would be very useful) and I would also like to add new kit-bashed or original ship models as the community develops them. I know there is a 3d viewer in development so am hopeful this will be a reality soon. Last edited by yllekm; 04-12-07 at 01:14 AM.

04-11-07, 07:25 AM	#6
Krupp Weps Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Your new rec manual looks great Could you check these? lengths: Your rec manual (dev collector's edit manual) Kongo: 721.8ft (225m/738ft) Yamato: 721.8ft (263.2m/863.5ft) Hiryu: 721.8ft (223.3m/732.6ft) widths: Yamato: 103.7ft (38.9m/127.6ft) Hiryu: 103.7ft (21.3m/69.9ft) mast heights: Kongo: 137.8ft (43m/141.1ft) Hiryu: 65.6ft (35.2m/115.5ft) I was just wandering which ones are ok. __________________ "Gentlemen, we have no choice. Total engagement. Die with dignity."

04-10-07, 04:48 AM	#3
Jungman Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 596 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Very, very Nice! You made alot people happy. Keep up the work. Plenty more ships to go!

04-11-07, 05:36 PM	#8
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Let me know when it has been updated, thanks Is there a way to mod the INGAME ID book with feet ?? Neal __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

04-11-07, 07:46 PM	#12
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank you very much for sharing this. Good stuff indeed!

04-12-07, 02:40 AM	#14
yllekm Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	The Allied version may be a while. I think we might be missing a fair amount of accurate data as many of the Allied ships are not in the printed recognition manual and the in-game manual dimensions are suspect. I need to sort through this to confirm whether there is a data problem and if so, decide what to do about it. BUT: Since there will be a delay, I have decided to push a hot fix for dimensioning errors Krupp found on the Kongo, Yamato and Hiryu and speed errors I found on the Kongo and Yamato now, rather than waiting until the next major release. See the first post in this thread for download links.

04-16-07, 11:15 AM	#15
BlackSpot Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Shropshire UK Posts: 266 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Thanks for all the work you've put into the Jap manual. __________________ Do nothing which is of no use.