Blowing holes in ships - and sometimes not

horrgakx · 04-10-07, 03:41 AM

I confirmed this yesterday with 3 torp hits on the same ship. One torp will blow a huge hole in the side of the ship, perhaps up to 10m in diameter. You can see the insides and everything.

However i can hit the ship with a number of torps and they won't blow holes in, I can't even see a SCRATCH! They're set to the same depth etc... (mainly because I can't work out how to see how deep a keel is).

Dave

Camaero · 04-10-07, 03:49 AM

Yep, same here. Not sure what the cause is though.

horrgakx · 04-10-07, 04:10 AM

It looks like the torp didn't actually cause damage. In light of this I'd normally launch another torpedo. I'm probably wasting them!

Faamecanic · 04-10-07, 06:27 AM

Same here.... sometimes the first torp will open a big hole, but more often then not NONE of my torps will make a hole. The deck gun on the other hand seems to always make multiple holes.

Von Hinten · 04-10-07, 06:28 AM

I had that too but since the ship in question didn't go down I just thought it was a dud ...

U56 · 04-10-07, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by horrgakx

It looks like the torp didn't actually cause damage. In light of this I'd normally launch another torpedo. I'm probably wasting them!

Not sure if this is a graphic setting, or a result of differing torpedo damage. I do know that when I have NOT seen damage effects, the target ship still developed a list after I hit it.

Regards

Redwine · 04-10-07, 06:32 AM

In the files... all torps have random power and destroy radius.

These random values vary between two values, a minimun and a maximun value.

Plus the magnetic pistols are adjusted to explode at 2 meters in stock fiiles, these 2 meters must be sustracted from the random lethal radius.

Then any explosion is the same as another.

If you increase the radius, the holes become giant...

You can play with the settings using the MiniTweaker program from TimeTraveller.

Lawndart · 04-10-07, 10:08 AM

I had this problem too and made sure my torps were set on impact, not magnetic. This helped but a lot but I still had the issue.

Even SH3 torps would detonate eary on magnatic pistols.

Capt.LoneRanger · 04-10-07, 10:24 AM

Same happened here. I had a cruiser torpedoed with 3 fishes and it sank within a minute. It didn't show a single hole or damage. When I hit a small freighter from the same convoy and the same depth, it looked like I could drive my sub through the hole.

Gildor · 04-10-07, 11:17 AM

I believe that the general rumor is that the torpedo setting selector switch is reversed due to a bug. If you have it set to contact it is actually set to contact influence.

If you set the torps to contact influence they are in fact hitting as contact only.

When they are set to contact they will still explode on contact but not always; sometimes they will explode some distance away and look like a direct hit.

Wow.. my brain hurts. Anyways. In summary: set your torps to contact influence

Give it a try and make your own determination.

swash · 04-10-07, 11:41 AM

The torpedo setting selector does seem reversed. Contact influence always explodes on impact unless the torp explodes prematuraly.

Sulikate · 04-10-07, 11:46 AM

Same here

horrgakx · 04-10-07, 01:23 PM

Hmm... how many things in this game are reversed???!!?!

tommyk · 04-10-07, 04:34 PM

No premature explosions but sometimes no damage on ships... my crew call them titaniums...

The General · 04-10-07, 04:47 PM

That switch is definitely reversed, just call it bug #1,358 and add it to the long list.

Also, I have noticed that upon loading a saved game any 3D damage to your sub, you may have incurred during a patrol, has miraculously been repaired whilst out at sea. Shame, I guess that's bug #1,359.

04-10-07, 03:49 AM	#2
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Yep, same here. Not sure what the cause is though. __________________

04-10-07, 06:28 AM	#5
Von Hinten Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 466 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I had that too but since the ship in question didn't go down I just thought it was a dud ... __________________ Regardz, Von Hinten UC3 Nautilus' engineer for 45 minutes!

04-10-07, 06:32 AM	#7
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In the files... all torps have random power and destroy radius. These random values vary between two values, a minimun and a maximun value. Plus the magnetic pistols are adjusted to explode at 2 meters in stock fiiles, these 2 meters must be sustracted from the random lethal radius. Then any explosion is the same as another. If you increase the radius, the holes become giant... You can play with the settings using the MiniTweaker program from TimeTraveller. __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

04-10-07, 10:24 AM	#9
Capt.LoneRanger Bosun Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 65 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Same happened here. I had a cruiser torpedoed with 3 fishes and it sank within a minute. It didn't show a single hole or damage. When I hit a small freighter from the same convoy and the same depth, it looked like I could drive my sub through the hole. __________________ Greets, Capt.LoneRanger

04-10-07, 11:17 AM	#10
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I believe that the general rumor is that the torpedo setting selector switch is reversed due to a bug. If you have it set to contact it is actually set to contact influence. If you set the torps to contact influence they are in fact hitting as contact only. When they are set to contact they will still explode on contact but not always; sometimes they will explode some distance away and look like a direct hit. Wow.. my brain hurts. Anyways. In summary: set your torps to contact influence Give it a try and make your own determination. __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal Last edited by Gildor; 04-10-07 at 11:55 AM.

04-10-07, 03:41 AM	#1
horrgakx Ensign Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 230 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Blowing holes in ships - and sometimes not I confirmed this yesterday with 3 torp hits on the same ship. One torp will blow a huge hole in the side of the ship, perhaps up to 10m in diameter. You can see the insides and everything. However i can hit the ship with a number of torps and they won't blow holes in, I can't even see a SCRATCH! They're set to the same depth etc... (mainly because I can't work out how to see how deep a keel is). Dave

04-10-07, 04:10 AM	#3
horrgakx Ensign Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 230 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	It looks like the torp didn't actually cause damage. In light of this I'd normally launch another torpedo. I'm probably wasting them!

04-10-07, 06:27 AM	#4
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Same here.... sometimes the first torp will open a big hole, but more often then not NONE of my torps will make a hole. The deck gun on the other hand seems to always make multiple holes.

04-10-07, 10:08 AM	#8
Lawndart Bosun Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 66 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I had this problem too and made sure my torps were set on impact, not magnetic. This helped but a lot but I still had the issue. Even SH3 torps would detonate eary on magnatic pistols.

04-10-07, 11:41 AM	#11
swash Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 46 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The torpedo setting selector does seem reversed. Contact influence always explodes on impact unless the torp explodes prematuraly.

04-10-07, 11:46 AM	#12
Sulikate Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Korea Posts: 834 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Same here __________________ Se flutua e não fala quack, afunde-o!

04-10-07, 01:23 PM	#13
horrgakx Ensign Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 230 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Hmm... how many things in this game are reversed???!!?!

04-10-07, 04:34 PM	#14
tommyk Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Near U-995 (Kiel, Germany) Posts: 337 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No premature explosions but sometimes no damage on ships... my crew call them titaniums... __________________ Gute Jagd und fette Beute!

04-10-07, 04:47 PM	#15
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	That switch is definitely reversed, just call it bug #1,358 and add it to the long list. Also, I have noticed that upon loading a saved game any 3D damage to your sub, you may have incurred during a patrol, has miraculously been repaired whilst out at sea. Shame, I guess that's bug #1,359. __________________ *THE GENERAL*